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Queer Enough? Fluidity, Fame & Control

Ava and Solange Season 2 Episode 30

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Solange and Ava return from hiatus to discuss how celebrities like Fletcher and JoJo Siwa are navigating their sexuality in the public eye, and examine complex relationship dynamics including power, consent, and authenticity in Hollywood and the Diddy scandal!

• The hosts explore public reactions to queer celebrities who begin dating the opposite gender
• They question why the LGBTQ+ community sometimes rejects members who show fluidity in their relationships
• Discussion about celebrities getting tattoos of partners' or future children's names
• Deep dive into how power and fame blur the lines of consent in relationships
• Conversation about whether most Hollywood relationships are authentic or business arrangements
• Reflections on monogamy and the challenge of normalizing different relationship structures
• Examination of public reactions to widows/widowers moving on after losing their partners

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Speaker 1:

So like I can sit here and admit, if Vanessa Bryant moved on, I'd feel a type of way about it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I get that because, from what I saw, people were all up in arms about it because she was. She said something about she will never re. Hey guys, welcome back to the let's Say More podcast. I am Solange, I'm Ava and we're back.

Speaker 1:

We are back.

Speaker 2:

We took a little hiatus. Yes, kind of regrouped.

Speaker 1:

Brought it back together.

Speaker 2:

Brought it back together and we're back. We're back with an easy, fun episode for you guys. Today we're going to talk a little bit about current events, what's going on, and a little bit about the Diddy stuff. A little bit about the gay community, as far as JoJo and Fletcher and what's the other one, billy, billy, all being straight now. It's typical women, though, I mean. But okay, we'll get into it, we'll get into it. So let's start with. Are these gays still gay?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I mean I don't know if they were gay like that to begin with. I kind of think that they were trying to figure themselves out and unfortunately for them, it was like on camera.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I think that they are still part of the queer community, so I wouldn't say that, oh, now they're straight. I think the problem that people are having with it from all the TikToks I saw is that Fletcher who is now going by, carrie.

Speaker 1:

That's her actual name, right? Her actual name.

Speaker 2:

Her whole identity was being a lesbian. Her whole like thing was that she was a lesbian and you know that whole thing. And she made all this gay music. By gay music I mean like she talked about being with girls, yeah, and now she like went full swing the opposite direction and apparently made this song where it's like Isn't it called Boy? Yeah, but it's like, isn't it called boy? Yeah, but it's like. This vibe is like she's like I don't know, like um, what's, what's I haven't heard it a little little girl on the prairie.

Speaker 2:

What's that show called?

Speaker 1:

little house on the house on the prairie.

Speaker 2:

She's a little girl on the prairie.

Speaker 1:

What are you thinking about?

Speaker 2:

Like she's all innocent and sweet and demure. Well, he popped her cherry, but have you seen this guy?

Speaker 1:

No, okay, I really don't even know what she looks like.

Speaker 2:

He is very interesting. He's very. I can't quite put my finger on it, is he?

Speaker 2:

artsy. If he's, he's more God. I don't even know what I would call him. His music is interesting, because if you listen to his music it does not sound like it would be coming out of him. If you look at him, um, he kind of has this rock, but like gothy, medieval, uh, I don't even know what to call it. Vibe, but he seems a little religious to me, religious or spiritual, um, which I also thought was kind of interesting. So I guess that's her boyfriend. Now I, I don't. I don't really know much about him, I don't know much about the whole situation, but I think people are all up and, like you know, have their panties in a bunch because of the drastic turn of events. Not that she's necessarily dating a guy, because I think most people would be like that's fine, you're queer, you're bi, you can date whatever you want, right? So the girls are all butthurt about it. So the girls are all butthurt about it because she is now, because they felt they needed to know her every move.

Speaker 2:

No, I think it was more of like the whole. She's now dating a guy, but she announces it during Pride Month and then she goes all little house on the prairie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, I guess I guess for me maybe I'm just out of touch with it, because like yeah, it's Pride Month for a group of people, but for her it's just another June, it's true, right. And this is like I'm not trying to offend anyone. I'm just saying like maybe maybe it was her, her self pride, maybe she finally figured out what her sexual preference was, and maybe it was her, I mean, I think it wasn't even I don't even know, I don even think it's about like figuring out your sexual preference.

Speaker 2:

I think it's that she just fell in love with this dude.

Speaker 1:

And that's just what it is. And who knows?

Speaker 2:

Maybe she'll fall in love with the chick afterwards, or maybe they have a throuple.

Speaker 1:

Maybe they have a throuple and we don't even know about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Right Like we don't know, but that was, that's the, that consensus. From what I got from all the TikTok videos I saw Not necessarily that they're mad. Some are mad that she's dating a guy because I don't know why, once you go to a woman, you're not allowed to date a guy. Does identifying as a queer person mean embracing fluidity, or are there still rules within the community.

Speaker 1:

I really don't care who you date, as long as you're not trying to date my person. But I mean, I've been with someone that only dated me as far as a girl and was attracted to men. I was like the only girl. But when she went and became a wife and a mother, like I mean, I don't know if the gay community would have embraced her any different if I was like a celebrity. I think we just get connected, we feel connected with certain celebrities and I think Because they're like us.

Speaker 1:

They're like so like Fletcher, for example, resembled certain women in the community right and they felt connected to her. And now that she is with a man, they're like oh wait, what do we have in common? And I feel like I feel my opinion is it's a little closed-minded, because as I've gotten older, I've learned to just let people do what they want, and the guy's probably giving her something that a woman couldn't and I'm not talking about in the bedroom, I'm talking about like, maybe he softens her up a bit, maybe he listens to her, maybe she feels safer with a man you know, who knows, or she could be bi, where, if this doesn't work out, she goes back to a woman.

Speaker 1:

But then is the community going to say okay, or are they going to try to kick her out?

Speaker 2:

Well, to me it's like you're part of the queer community. What does that mean? That means that you are part of a community that embraces all different kinds of people. You're open-minded. Supposedly it's the whole point of being in a queer community to the queer people, right? Is that you are open-minded, you embrace all kinds of people, you embrace all sexualities. Like you're more open to people and what their, whatever their, you know preferences. You're not judging them per se, right?

Speaker 2:

So for me, I think, when it comes to somebody who has predominantly dated women, I think it's more like we should just be happy for the person that they found, somebody that they're into and that they fell for, and who cares if that person is male or female or non-binary? Like it doesn't to me it doesn't matter, as long as they're happy with it. And I'm not going to pigeonhole you into a category. Like I don't want to be pigeonholed into a category. If I was somebody who was, you know, open or fluid or whatever, like I fell in love with who I fell in love with, you should still embrace them for who they are, because they're still part of the community. They just happen to be dating a guy right now. That doesn't make her straight. I mean now, if she came out and said I'm straight, I'm only dating men Watch, she's going to come out and say I am only, I'm straight, I'm only dating men Watch.

Speaker 1:

She's going to come out and say it tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

And that's a different conversation. I mean at that point I don't know. But the other one that bit the straight fruit, the forbidden fruit, I don't know, the straight fruit, that drank the straight juice. That drank the straight juice. Is Jojo right?

Speaker 1:

But I think our question with jojo is her soft era because I think the man made her soft. I think that she was the provider, she was the protector, and this guy came around and he I didn't watch big brother because it's the guy I was gonna say who had. Where does she meet this guy? First of of all, he's from Love Island, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2:

Okay, boo, tell us, break it down. Who is?

Speaker 1:

this guy. They went on to Big Brother. I don't watch Big Brother, me neither, but they went on Big Brother and then apparently she was dating a girl and then some people said she was cheating I don't know, I didn't watch it, uh-huh. But then she fell for this guy. So I think he softened her up because he took on the role that she's used to taking. And as women, uh-huh, we want to be taken care of, whether it's from a guy or a girl, like we want to feel protected. Right, I mean, I do and I have.

Speaker 2:

I think it depends, because I am more alpha in my relationships.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think she's, I don't think she was a true alpha, which is also probably why I don't think I would I could be with a guy, cause I'd be like, let me, let me spoon you. I don't think I could be with a guy because I'd be like, let me spoon you, okay, I don't know. Like, I think that I guess that's a question. Do you think that we, as when gay women or you know there's a spectrum of gay women, let's say somebody who's more on the masculine side? Is it that they date or they date women and in those relationships they're more of the masculine?

Speaker 1:

yeah, you know energy, yeah, and now you're dating a man, so she's now softened her energy and feels more in tune with her feminine energy yeah, because she wasn't going to date a woman that looked like her, because that's not what she was attracted to as far as women go, right. But then you date a man but then, but then she's in big brother where they can't go anywhere. So she had no choice but to get to know him and she let I think she let her guard down and she's like this actually feels nice, like I think if she was in the same situation in Big Brother and the boy was a girl, but like a masculine girl and she gave that masculine girl a chance, I think she'd go for that. That's what I think. I think she just I don't think she's a true alpha.

Speaker 1:

I think Jojo Siwa my opinion was just she's an act from when she was younger and she was doing all that stuff for the little girls riding around in the pink, purple car. I think she's a personality, right, and I think in Big Brother you're vulnerable and the real you is because you're stuck in that freaking. What is the show even about?

Speaker 2:

Big Brother is. I know there's a bunch of cameras in the house, cameras and they watch you and I don't know the point of the show. That's the one reality show I don't watch. What do you do Like? Vote people off the island out of the house. That's one reality show I don't watch. What do you do Like? Vote people off the?

Speaker 1:

island out of the house.

Speaker 2:

I think you get voted out of the house.

Speaker 1:

Oh, interesting, yeah I like the love shows, like I'm on Love Island right now.

Speaker 2:

Isn't there love in Big Brother too? I guess Don't they all sleep with each other as well?

Speaker 1:

There's like 200 seasons, I don't have time for that.

Speaker 2:

I don't know I it, but you should watch love island.

Speaker 1:

but like they are super in love right now I think that one was more of a shocker though because she is more on the masculine side, more of the tomboy girl yeah, she said she's, she's more like yeah, and like now she's dating a guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it was like very shocking to people. She makes that with her with with, yeah, with this guy being all soft and sweet and cuddly when her personality is so kind of like Rough Rough yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think that's the part that's more shocking to me, yeah, but I think that's why I think it was all just a show. I think she was just being a personality. I think deep down she's this little softie.

Speaker 2:

Do you think that there are people whether you're in a relationship with, like a man or a woman, like whatever, it doesn't matter Like there are people who bring different sides of your sexuality, your gender, your personality out, so like they make you softer? Or, yeah, they make you like putty?

Speaker 1:

Harder or they make you harder because you feel like you have to be putty or they make you harder because you feel like you have to be. I think we, as humans, we go into like a shell, or we remove the shell, depending on who we feel safe around.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I could definitely say that I'm more vulnerable now than I have in the past, and I've been more feminine as well now than I have in the past in other relationships.

Speaker 1:

It would be interesting when they break up, if she's going to come out with like. You know how I feel like all the greatest albums are made through, like Heartbreak, like Adele's album, or like Christina. Aguilera, mariah Carey, all of those albums, usher, god, I'm going through memory lane and so I wonder what kind Not that I listen. I do not listen to her music.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say but. I just I don't even know a song that she sings. I don't either.

Speaker 1:

But it'll be just interesting to see what she does with that breakup.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But right now she's enjoying it and I think, yes, it was a shocker, but I feel like, okay, guys, just let her. She's young, yeah, let her experiment.

Speaker 2:

Let her do her thing. The problem I think that we have is that these poor celebrities can't do anything because they're under a magnifying glass and like everything they do is like viewed and judged and seen by the public. And you're like that's not gay, that's not gay enough, you're not yeah, you're not gay enough, You're not this enough, you're not that enough. It's like, let her just be, let her canoodle with this guy, let her have her kicks and let her decide if you know.

Speaker 1:

She's going to end up pregnant next month. Oh my God. Well, she already said, I think in an interview. She said she has her kids' names tattooed on her. That's what. I'll tell you this. When she said that, I knew, I knew she wasn't going to be that forever. I promise you. I just remembered that interview. That is crazy. She's like, yeah, I got my kids, Because her voice is always yeah, I got my kids' names tatted on me.

Speaker 2:

What if she meets like a wife or husband that doesn't want the same names as she does? Those were my future children that I didn't get to.

Speaker 1:

She's going to cross them out.

Speaker 2:

Cross them out and write the name underneath.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, or just get the tattoo removed.

Speaker 2:

I just don't think you should tattoo things that have not necessarily-.

Speaker 1:

Like Pete Davidson. When he tattooed Kim's kids' initials on him, he did yeah, like I think right here.

Speaker 2:

Isn't he like removing all his tattoos? Yeah, he removes a bunch.

Speaker 1:

Not all. Not all yet, but I think he wants to remove all of them.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy to me. I wonder why he said the reason. Now I don't remember it, but he did say the reason. If we Google it, I wonder if it's because he had a very addictive lifestyle, right? So I think that maybe, like when you have that kind of life, you do a lot of things that you later, maybe once you've sobered up and you're living cleaner thinking. Maybe this doesn't represent who I am now, so let me just.

Speaker 1:

Let me get rid of Kanye's initials that are on me yeah.

Speaker 2:

I would never do that. Would you ever get a tattoo of your partner's name on you?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Your wife's name on you?

Speaker 1:

No, I have her handwriting. I'm not kidding Fernanda on me. That's fucked up, right, why not? No, no.

Speaker 2:

What if she got up on her she?

Speaker 1:

wouldn't. I wish she would get something.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean? Doesn't she have something of yours?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

So you have her handwriting. She doesn't have your handwriting.

Speaker 1:

I have Mel's handwriting and hers.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I thought it was like a mutual thing.

Speaker 1:

No. She did tell me for a few years, though, that she was going to get something of mine.

Speaker 2:

Maybe she could just get an A.

Speaker 1:

Or just like my birthday in Roman numerals would be fine.

Speaker 2:

I mean an A could be anything later on. It could be Mel's middle name. Yeah, if she ever wants to not have it be Ava yeah, she could be like. It could be Mel's middle name. Yeah, if she ever wants to like.

Speaker 1:

not have it be Ava. Yeah, she could be like. This is Mel's middle name Cool Put an.

Speaker 2:

M in front of it. Yeah, cool, there you go. Now it's something else, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But no, I won't. Would you ever get someone's name the name?

Speaker 2:

A full name. Yes, yes, no. Initial. Yes, I don't even have my mom's name tattooed on me, but I do have her handwriting yeah. And I have other things. I got my dad's nickname but I don't have like a hard yes or no, got it. Maybe my kid's name, if I had a kid at some point.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I would get something of my kids if I had them.

Speaker 2:

But I don't know if it would be a name, I think it would be something else that represents them. Yeah, same as like my partner. Like I would get something that represents them, but not necessarily like their name. Yeah, I don't know why, I just think names sometimes are Tacky. I didn't want to say that because there's probably people with name tattoos. Yeah, I mean I didn't say you're tacky, I'm just saying I just don't like it, you don't like it For me?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I have a name on me. It's Hannah's name, though.

Speaker 2:

Aw.

Speaker 1:

That's the only name I have when On my shoulder Like this Well, it's Hannah. And then her middle name. Right here I want to say I've seen it, because once Lily gave her a name I was so excited. Yeah, hannah's just so exciting. Aww, how far is too far? Kink's consent and relationship limits. Our next topic the diddly diddler allegations and the woman who claimed they were Diddy yeah, but they calldly diddler allegations and the women who claim they. Diddy, yeah, but they call him the diddler.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Why do they call him the diddler?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, you don't know why? No, oh, I don't know either.

Speaker 2:

I thought you were looking at me like I'm.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't know. We could ask ChatGBT later, your wife, the Diddy allegations and the women who claim they went along with things to make him happy. Oh man, oh man, what day are they on the trial?

Speaker 2:

I don't even know. I don't know either. It's been a while, though. Didn't it start like? Did it start in May? I don't remember. I want to say it started like May 5th or something like that, cinco de Mayo maybe.

Speaker 1:

In a relationship, how much should someone be expected to do to satisfy their partner's desires, especially when it crosses into discomfort or risk?

Speaker 2:

that's a good question. I think that, given the current situation, from what I've heard, a lot of these women seem to have the same narrative, where they say they did it to make him happy and to please his kink, which is something that I think is fine. If you're with your partner, you love your partner and you want to you know, make them happy and do something that's going to make them happy and fulfill their desires. I think that there are boundaries and limits to that. I do think that you also have to be somebody who is open to doing things that maybe are a little outside your comfort zone but that you're kind of into, because if it's something that you're totally not into and you're doing it, then as your partner, that would make me not want to participate in that with you, because I would be like you're not going to enjoy this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I don't. Why do I want to do something that you're not going to enjoy with you? You know like, but I do think that it seems to be mostly I don't know if this happens in in same sex relationships, but it seems to be something that I've noticed a lot with like women and like super alpha males or like males with power, or you know, like him, for example, where they they put themselves in these situations that they would not normally want to be in yeah, because they want to, you know, please him. And then they find themselves in these really scary situations as things like evolve and get crazier, Like I think he is just on another level.

Speaker 1:

Where do we draw the line between love, loyalty and manipulation?

Speaker 2:

I mean he's definitely manipulative. That is 100% manipulation, right there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but when you're in it you just don't realize that's what's happening.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean if somebody's manipulating you and telling you like oh I, this is something I you know.

Speaker 1:

if you don't do this, you don't love me, or if you don't do this, you're not getting this record deal.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like that is like blackmail.

Speaker 1:

That's a whole other level of just disgusting behavior what responsibility do people have for creating safe mutual kink boundaries?

Speaker 2:

I think they have all the responsibility.

Speaker 1:

I think you should.

Speaker 2:

I think you should definitely have discussions and be open to those discussions and open to the other person's desires and kinks, and everybody wants to make the other person that they're with happy. Yeah, you know. So if it's something that you're maybe hesitant about or you don't know enough about, or you're scared, or you know it's a conversation you can have and who knows? I mean, I I often wonder how many times people are in a relationship where one partner is more experienced than the other in whatever that may be.

Speaker 1:

I think that it is the responsibility of the person that knows more about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1:

To do that.

Speaker 2:

To be the one that like leads yes, the experience and the conversation.

Speaker 1:

I agree with you. Can power and fame blur the lines of consent, and how does that influence how we see celebrity relationships? 100% yeah. I don't really idolize a lot of celebrity relationships because I don't know if they're genuine. I feel like they're all business. The majority of it is like business.

Speaker 2:

I think that, because Hollywood has had such a bad rap with relationships, I think it's a hard one to say.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure there are relationships in Hollywood that you know are very genuine and very real and they've stood the test of time, you know. But I think that being in that environment and in that, um, career, it's hard because you're constantly you're, you're like, constantly forced to be like, you're constantly put in these situations where people manipulate you, people want to entice you, people want to like, persuade you, and then you get wrapped in these like weird situations and I think a lot of times people don't live their authentic self as their authentic selves, because they have to represent a certain persona and you know, you have a lot of people in your ears telling you what to do and how to be and who to be and who to date and how you know. So I think that a lot of times, yeah, they're often dating people that they don't want to be dating, because they're put in these situations and so it doesn't come off as authentic or they're not allowed to come out Like Alicia Keys.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think she's gay.

Speaker 2:

But I think that there's people that are definitely taken advantage of in that type of environment because there's hierarchy, they have money, they have power and they're going to do what they want with you. They have control, and it happens in Hollywood, it happens in politics, it happens in a lot of different situations.

Speaker 1:

I think Hollywood is weird as it is. Like I think Beyonce and Jay-Z like at one point I really was like, oh, this is great because I like both of them and then things kind of shifted a little bit for me with them and like just, I just think Hollywood, I don't think it's as authentic. Does that mean all of Hollywood? No, I'm sure, like Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell, I feel like that's. I feel like it's genuine. I hope it is. I think for show. It's like you see A and B they're here, but I think A and B have their own, Like Jada and Will yeah, I do. I think most of them are like in open Open marriages, I think so. Or open relationships, I think so. But I think they'll never come out and say it because it goes against-.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the Society, yes, society norms, yeah, I mean I think Jada and Will were in an open relationship. Yes, they were swingers and the whole thing, are they still? Together. They're still married, but they live separately.

Speaker 1:

They're separated.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I didn't know that, but they're still married, apparently, from what I heard, like they still try. They're trying to work on their relationship. I don't quite. She wrote a whole book about it.

Speaker 1:

I don't quite she wrote a whole book about it, did she? She was going around saying, you know, while they were married, wasn't she going around saying that like Tupac was like the love of her life?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I think, yeah, but I think that's you think that's okay to do. Well, no, like it's one thing to think it right, like you could think it.

Speaker 1:

but when you're, if I'm married to you and we're public figures and I go and I say my ex, who I was never married to, never had a child with, was the love of my life and I had this whole life built with you, with children and everything. Isn't that disrespecting you in a way?

Speaker 2:

I mean yes, but also I think that it depends on their relationship, like it depends on how they, you know, it could be that he knows that and he's fine because the guy's dead. I mean, who the hell knows, you know?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think if he was alive maybe it'd be a different story. But I think that he, I think that they had a very open relationship in that sense and some boundaries were probably blurred and crossed open relationship in that sense, and some boundaries were probably blurred and crossed and I think that he wasn't as squeaky clean as you know he's. No, I don't think he was Makes himself to seem no, but I do think that they've had their trials and tribulations in their relationship. I definitely think that they were more open in Hollywood. I think there's a lot of relationships in Hollywood that are like that. Yeah, in Hollywood, I think there's a lot of relationships in Hollywood that are like that, but I think that they don't publicize it, obviously, because it's not society's norm.

Speaker 1:

They need to get society used to stuff like that being normal.

Speaker 2:

Totally, it should totally be normal. Monogamy is not for everybody, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1:

If you're okay with doing that, if you and your partner are okay with it, cool.

Speaker 2:

Do your thing monogamous relationship or in a non-monogamous. Monogamous relationship or in a relationship that I don't know has your own rules, that you make up on your own? Who cares?

Speaker 1:

I don't care, but that's why I think that they should, we should make.

Speaker 2:

But maybe it should be normalized. But the problem is is it's not normalized because everything is about being right, like with that one person, with your man and a woman, and they're married forever. And you know you only have sexual relationships with each other to procreate and only procreate. Yeah, you know like it goes back to old school mentalities and old school way of thinking, because in my opinion that just inflicts control.

Speaker 1:

Did you hear that rumor about Vanessa Bryant being pregnant? Yeah, but it's not true. I know, thank God.

Speaker 2:

Supposedly that she was dating like. Supposedly she was His friend or something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's not true, and like everybody was going crazy about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she came out, I think, and posted a meme or something with the middle finger of Rihanna's name and I was like okay, I'm like thank God.

Speaker 1:

You know people are like, well, he's been dead, right, I get it. Yeah, but see, that's the thing, but she should be allowed to move on too, but you see what I tell you. It's like you look at this person as something and then, when they don't do it, so like I can sit here and admit if Vanessa Bryant moved on, I'd feel a type of way about it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I get that Because from what I saw, people were all up in arms about it because she said something about she will never remarry. She did say that.

Speaker 1:

And I'm like, yeah, of course she's not going to remarry.

Speaker 2:

She doesn't want somebody else to take all her money that he left her.

Speaker 1:

He did leave her a lot, she's not stupid. He left her a lot.

Speaker 2:

That was my opinion on that, but do I think that she's going to have her fun and be able to like she's young. They're sex toys.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, she's, young.

Speaker 2:

If she wants to move on, she should be able to move on.

Speaker 1:

She needs to live her life for her children and wait to be a grandma.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, we'll remember that.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be dead first, and if you guys let Fernanda get remarried, I'm haunting all of you.

Speaker 2:

Why is it that when we're in our own relationships we're like you should not know. You can only be with me, and if I die you have to be miserable for the rest of your life? God forbid. You cannot date anybody else. You can go have sex with other people, but you cannot date somebody.

Speaker 1:

God forbid, fernando were to pass, I wouldn't be miserable, meaning like I'd be sad without her. But you don't think I'd be going on like vacations and taking her with me in some form and showing her the world? I'm not remarrying and I'm not doing any of that stuff. She would haunt me. Sure boo, I believe you. Shut up. You're supposed to believe me. All right, I wouldn't be miserable. I'd be sad. I definitely would not be miserable. I don't know if I'm miserable. All right, I wouldn't be miserable. I'd be sad. You definitely would not be miserable.

Speaker 2:

All right, guys, we're going to wrap this episode up here. Thank you so much for listening and that's it.

Speaker 1:

We'll see you guys on the next one. Later booze, later booze.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the let's Say More podcast. If you can, please show your love and support by writing a review on Apple Podcasts, rating us on Spotify and, of course, spreading the word and sharing us with your community, we would greatly appreciate it. The let's Say More podcast is produced by yours truly, solange Aurelio and Ava Mozaffari, and edited by myself as well, solange Aurelio.

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