Lez Say More Podcast
Welcome to Lez Say More: the podcast where your favorite duo of best friends—together for over 20 years—gets real about the queer community. Join us every Wednesday as we dive into everything from health and wellness, to fashion, relationships, sex - and even the occasional celebrity gossip. With our trademark humor and brutal honesty, we’re here to share stories, laughs, and insights about the (queer) modern life and all the fabulousness it has to offer. Whether you're part of the community or just curious, grab your favorite drink and join the conversation—because we promise to keep it funny, relatable, and absolutely unfiltered!
Lez Say More Podcast
From Clubs to Commitments & Why Some Lesbians Are Now Dating Men?
Mickey shares her heartfelt journey from the vibrant nightlife of her youth to the beautiful yet complex world of marriage and family planning. The episode highlights the realities of love, loss, and new beginnings, offering listeners an intimate glimpse into Mickey's life as a newlywed while discussing deeper themes of commitment and identity in the LGBTQ+ community.
• Mickey's transition from nightlife to marriage
• The magical Disneyland proposal story
• Embracing the IVF journey as a couple
• Reflections on past relationships and heartbreak
• Exploring the complexities of LGBTQ+ relationship dynamics
• Conversations about societal norms regarding love and identity
• Fun segments like True or False and Boo or Snooze
• Encouragement for listeners to share their own love stories
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What do you mean? How was whatever easy? Taking a shot of tequila, oh, back in the day.
Speaker 2:That's why I don't drink anymore Do you remember ever going to. Oz yes.
Speaker 3:I did.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, when you're not 18, you couldn't go to that up bar right, I could do one step. And when I was finally 21 and my friends Trevor was still, I would give her my shot. Yeah, via the mouth what, what are you?
Speaker 1:mama bird, baby bird, we have to.
Speaker 2:They wanted to drink my friends wanted to drink and they did that.
Speaker 1:They did that to me oh my god, the things you would do for some liquor.
Speaker 3:Back then I do some crazy I mean I still might do some crazy shit for the girl. Man depends on the thing all rightends on it.
Speaker 1:Let's do a little intro here. Some people know what we're talking about. All right guys. Welcome back to the Less Say More podcast. I am Solange, I'm Ava and today we have a very special guest, one of our dear friends, Mickey.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:Round of applause for Mickey. Ava keeps pressing the button but it's not giving an applause, so we'll put one in here. Insert clip.
Speaker 3:So today we're going to talk to Mickey about her being a newlywed. Her and I, both on this end, are newlyweds and you over here are a divorcee. We're going to learn a lot about Mickey and ask her some questions and play a little game at the end.
Speaker 1:All right, Mick. How did we meet? I don't even remember how we met. This was like back in the day.
Speaker 2:Early mid 2000s, Definitely before 2007.
Speaker 1:I know where I was at in 2007. This is when, like, the nightlife was Popping.
Speaker 2:Popping, popping. Here was the place to be here Before it got taken over by All the boys All the boys Pimpin' Push.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm Truck, stop Truck, stop Truck. Stop yes, wow, remember East West, yeah, but that's like where the older lesbians went, that's where we would go.
Speaker 2:We would go there now.
Speaker 3:Is it open? I don't know.
Speaker 1:No it's not open 311. No just 11.
Speaker 3:Oh, was that? 311 was the bar, was the band? Is it 311 a band? Yeah, jesus.
Speaker 1:There was that other one too, oh my God. There was Girl Bar, and then there was the one that my ex used to put out what's it called? Oh my God.
Speaker 2:The Catwalk.
Speaker 3:The catwalk, oh the catwalk. I remember that one.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was VIP in that.
Speaker 1:We were all VIP. We were with our special friend and she would always get us in for VIP.
Speaker 3:Is it because? You wore that leather jacket all the time.
Speaker 1:It was. It was a leather jacket. The leather jacket was my VIP ticket.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they all thought you were like on a Harley.
Speaker 1:So they're like oh, come on in. Wasn't that your leather jacket? I remember what kind of leather jacket.
Speaker 2:It was a Mercedes. I remember the Mercedes you used to have it. No.
Speaker 1:The leather jacket, or the Mercedes, the leather jacket? Oh, the leather. No, no, no, I don't. You gave it away.
Speaker 3:Someone else it to fall apart. On me.
Speaker 1:That's why you know, when you have that one article of clothing, you just wear it to the bone, to fernanda's thrown away all of this for me, so I don't have anything it was like my favorite jacket.
Speaker 1:I wore that thing to death but yeah, that was that's what I was known for. That and the the skunk, yes, yes, had some wild, weird hairstyles and hair colors and whatever, but it was me. Yeah, it was me, all right. So do you remember the first time we met? I don't remember the first time we met. I was trying to think about it today. I want to say it was at here Probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because from then we just stayed going to here or any club, yeah.
Speaker 3:And it was just always us three you, myself and trevor yeah and we would get home at like five o'clock in the morning. What were you?
Speaker 1:doing. Well, we would also go eat. Yeah, go eat where I asked for us. No, denny's, it was a denny's, or like drive-thru jack jack, because she loved those stupid tacos.
Speaker 3:We used to get a fat burger. Oh, on the corner there's a fat burger.
Speaker 1:Now we'd go there and then, um, or we'd go. Just, I always felt like a bodyguard for leslie dj leslie, because we'd go set stand with her at her next, whatever the hell she was djing well, people were messing with her. That's the thing, yeah, but all three of us and we were all like the butchy lesbians.
Speaker 3:So I feel like we all stood there like bodyguards like don't look at my friend, don't look at my friend. That's funny. Meanwhile, solange would never fight. No.
Speaker 1:I actually the bar. One of the bar fights I got into. Mickey was there, do you remember that at here?
Speaker 2:no, but I'm sure, like it was that night that that Mickey was there. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1:At here? No, but I'm sure, like it was that night that, that I was at here with Mickey and Trevor, and then there was this we're gonna call her Frenchie and and she was there who. You know who I'm talking about. She was there. With what did we start calling her FF? Oh, and that whole situation and she came up to me and we were walking to the bathroom, okay, and I got pulled and you were like who the hell you were walking behind me?
Speaker 2:Oh, because I was such a firecracker too at that time yeah, I was looking to just pump up my chest, Like I was such a firecracker too at that time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was looking to like just pump up my chest and be like what are you?
Speaker 2:doing.
Speaker 1:What are you doing, my friend? Yeah, I remember that. Oh man, good old days, good old days, good old days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was a skinny little twig.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was such a skinny little twig too, god I was, and then I took it all for granted.
Speaker 2:I was like wearing the baggy clothes. Now that I'm a little on the cute, chubby side, I'm like the skinny jeans, you know, everything like.
Speaker 3:I took it all for granted. So you guys met at a nightclub.
Speaker 2:Did you?
Speaker 3:guys continue to go out hang out all the time, yep, and then and then, who were you dating?
Speaker 1:At that time I was dating. I had just broken up with Frenchie. Then I started dating. Had just broken up with Frenchie, then I started dating.
Speaker 3:um pull out the roster. I'm sure you started oh, I started dating that friend of yours oh that friend that friend of yours
Speaker 1:that friend um, and we dated for a little while on and off, and yeah, that was, that was pretty much it. And then I met my ex-wife, okay, and and then I kind of fell off the face of the earth, because once you got wifed up, that was pretty much the end of going out.
Speaker 3:So that ended for me at like 26 and who and what was your roster like at that time? I wasn't. There was just who? No, I, I wasn't. There was a roster.
Speaker 2:It was just who? No, I, I wasn't dating anyone. We were just really just going out and honestly, it was just enjoying the company. I can't, I can't say that I was dating anyone. I didn't date anybody for a long time.
Speaker 1:No and then no until you met, uh that one friend that was part of the group too.
Speaker 3:What's her?
Speaker 1:name.
Speaker 2:Give it a name. Give her a name. Give her a name that's not her name.
Speaker 3:You have to give her a name. You have to give her a name. Oh wow, what's the first thing that pops in your mind, jameson?
Speaker 2:Jameson what I'm reading All right, all right, jamie Jameson.
Speaker 1:All right, you started dating Jamie Jameson.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, and that was yeah, four years, very tough four years.
Speaker 1:Very tough four years.
Speaker 2:Well, she got sick. She got sick, she got diagnosed with cancer and it was very Aggressive, very aggressive. She had surgery, she went into remission. I want to say a year after that, a year and a half after that, she got diagnosed again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, wow, so that was.
Speaker 2:You were like a caretaker basically too. So our first year of our relationship, we traveled, which was fun. Yeah, she broke her ankle in one of our trips oh my God, I remember that. So I moved in to help her because she lived in this.
Speaker 1:Was that your excuse to U-Haul?
Speaker 3:That was her justification to U-Haul.
Speaker 2:I was tired of making the drive. I'm from the Valley, so driving out to LA was at that time tough.
Speaker 3:I think that's a good reason right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then live there. We got our own place, we were roommates with another friend and then that's when the diagnosis happened and for two years out of the four those were like extremely tough and did she survive it?
Speaker 3:absolutely she is thriving.
Speaker 2:Oh, very nice we don't have like a, like a, I can say friendship like we constantly hang out, but for the most part, we check in on each other because you know, yeah well, she could have lost her life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's somebody that at the time I was with. But I think that brings you together on a different level too, like you know, like we just genuinely care for each other.
Speaker 2:The frivolous shit doesn't matter. The way I see it to this day is like I was the person that needed to be there. At that time In her life too Carefully, because I consider myself very selfless.
Speaker 1:I'm caring and sign are you. I'm a gemini and you're selfless.
Speaker 3:I'm impressed by this careful there. Your bff is gemini. What do you mean? My best friend is my best friend is my sister is my, best friend is my brother-in-law is, and they're not self selfless. They can be oh, I wouldn't call them selfish but gemini's are very stubborn in their own routine type of people. Very routine Like this is what I'm doing and, look, priscilla will show up for me at any given moment.
Speaker 3:So would my sister, so would my brother-in-law, but I don't think selfless is a word that you would use quite often with a Gemini.
Speaker 1:See, I don't know very many Geminis other than P, so I can't really speak to them. But I love all three I've never had a relationship with a Gemini either, so I don't know. Just a friend yeah, you don't strike me as a, no, you don't strike me as a Gemini. Maybe it's your rising. Do you know what your rising is? No, hmm, we gotta figure that out. And then, when did you meet your now wife? Applause, because you are now married, recently married, Newlywed.
Speaker 3:Show your ring, show your ring, like you guys just got married.
Speaker 2:Yes, Like what last week? Oh, last week On the 4th.
Speaker 3:How was that Like two weeks ago? How was that for you it?
Speaker 2:was honestly amazing. It was a long time coming. She beat me to proposing me. First of all, she proposed to you she proposed to me.
Speaker 1:Were you surprised? How did that? How did that go over? Did you guys talk about who would propose to who?
Speaker 2:first I would always make comments like, oh, I'm gonna marry you, I'm gonna marry you, I'm gonna marry you. And you know, she was like uh-huh, uh-huh, ring talks, you know, and that's, that's already for you. Um, and we? There was a time where we fostered our current dog, oogie, who happened to be pregnant also. I remember that, yeah, she had seven beautiful pups, and each pup that left I was like Heartbroken. Devastated I'm like no can we keep them yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, the first day that two of them left is the day that we decided to go to Disneyland. So I was distraught, I was like I'm not happy. I that we decided to go to Disneyland, so I was distraught, I was like I'm not happy. I would constantly just randomly cry at Disneyland Aww. And next thing you know we're in front of the castle and she's on her knee. Oh, in front of the castle. You're like let me help you up. What are you?
Speaker 3:doing.
Speaker 1:Are you?
Speaker 3:tying your shoe. What's going on? Does your knee hurt? Does your knee hurt?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm like because we're taking the photos. They're taking blah, blah, blah and I'm like okay, cool. And then she's like hold on one more. But she goes to the backpack, that's on the floor, and I'm like but at this time I'm chatty. So I'm chatting with the photographer guy and I'm like oh, decide to look over, like ask her, like hello, and then she's on the floor and I'm like no, oh shit. And she's like I love you, and I'm like no, and I'm literally I keep saying no.
Speaker 3:Were you saying no because she beat you to it? No, I was. I think she was just in shock.
Speaker 2:I was completely shocked and I give her, I lean in to give her a hug, and she's like so is that a yes?
Speaker 3:And I'm like absolutely, of course.
Speaker 2:And you know the next thing. You know she sends out a group text and everybody knew, except me, that she was proposing so. But you know, at the time I kept crying throughout the day because I was like the dogs and the dogs. But after that I was just looking at the ring and I was like I love the ring and I'm like you beat me to it. And she was like well, I love you that much and I just want to be with you. And I was like, oh, that's romantic, that's so romantic.
Speaker 3:Well, congratulations to you.
Speaker 2:But I did, did my own proposal. You did how did you do it? I always frequent this park, Vista Hermosa Park in downtown LA. I go there too and I did it there. I had my mom create this nice little round balloon flower like arrangement and her mom happened to be in town so I was like it was her birthday too, yeah. Oh, okay. So I told her I'm like hey, meet me at the park.
Speaker 2:I took my grandma to go walk and she says she was thinking like why are you taking your 80-year-old grandma to walk at the park?
Speaker 3:But you know when she turned a corner. Oh, that's romantic, that's sweet right, that's very romantic.
Speaker 2:Our parents were there. Well, my parents were there.
Speaker 1:So how did you guys meet?
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 1:God, yeah, tell us, tell us, mick, tell us. Let's say more about it make let me take a sip of this. It's water, it's water, it's water. We did our shot before. Unless you want jameson in there, unless you want another shot, tequila well, this is gonna sound odd in the beginning.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's okay, it's gonna sound bad. Who cares? We don't judge, we're judging. I met her for the first time ever at her wedding, at her wedding, at her wedding, where she was the bride. She was the bride and I was the guest of the DJ.
Speaker 3:Okay, so you were the plus one. The plus one, you're at her wedding, you see her, and you were like that's my wife.
Speaker 2:I see a photo of her Because they have these nice, because when we went to go set up the DJ and everything once we got there, because it was a destination wedding. It was in Rosarito, oh, okay.
Speaker 3:I love Rosarito.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my friend the DJ and I go up and set up. And I just kept walking by like their photo, like, I guess, their engagement photo. Yeah, and she was wearing like this cobalt blue outfit or dress.
Speaker 3:The fact that she remembers Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Wow, absolutely. And it was her, her ex-wife and my now pup, kevincitocito, and our little Shih Tzu, and I just remember looking at the photo and be like, wow, like she's, she's really pretty. Then that, that was it. And I just, I just always go back to that photo like, always thinking and, I guess, being mesmerized by her, like I just really wow, like she's somebody that I uh-huh, I'm gravitated to. But that was it. But our first actual interaction at her wedding wasn't until like almost nine o'clock at night because I had the worst migraine. Oh, and at the venue I finally showered and I was like god, I finally I'll go, because the dj was like hey, where are you? Come on, like, don't leave me alone, and you weren't there at all during the wedding.
Speaker 2:I was there for the ceremony. Uh-huh, I was actually the first person she saw as she walked down the aisle.
Speaker 1:Oh wow it gets better right it gets crazy.
Speaker 3:Wow, I love these. I like this. I love these stories.
Speaker 2:I was at the last row and obviously we said she's walking by and I'm sure she looked. I can remember her looking at me and being like who?
Speaker 3:are you? Who are you Right?
Speaker 2:Because she wasn't expecting me to come.
Speaker 2:I don't even know if she knew that my friend was going to bring me plus one, and after that I went to the room Sorry, fell asleep because I just couldn't bear the headache, yeah. And that's when my friend was like where are you? Where are you Finally show up, shower, show up. And after a couple rounds of music, whatever she comes up and she's like thank you guys, so much for coming. You guys, this is a beautiful day. Blah, blah, blah, take a shot. And she had the bottle. She was like come on, take a shot. And that was our first night to go. Well, thanks for having me and give me a shot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pour some liquor in my mouth, pour some sugar on me.
Speaker 2:We just kept in contact after that, Like she followed me on Instagram or I followed her.
Speaker 1:I don't remember, I can't recall.
Speaker 3:She pleads the fifth. I think she followed me. We'll go with that one, we'll go with that. We'll go with that.
Speaker 2:We all actually hung out Like I hung out with her and her ex-wife.
Speaker 1:Ex-wife, but wife during that time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that obviously didn't make it, so I was.
Speaker 1:How long were they married for?
Speaker 3:Did they get a a like? Did they void it the next day?
Speaker 2:Sorry for putting your business out.
Speaker 1:If you're listening and not watching, you're missing out.
Speaker 2:Let's just say they got married in March. It didn't last the year.
Speaker 1:It didn't make it to the end of the month. The year, oh, the year, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then we've always maintained a friendship and you know I was her shoulder to talk, you know to cry on and whatever and talk and she felt comfortable letting me know her situation and stuff like that, and I'm not one of those people, even though I'm attracted to you, I'm going to try to like throw you know know stones at the other person.
Speaker 2:I was like, well, you gotta try and make an effort. And they say you try it before you, yeah, you know, step out of your relationship or you don't want to be in this relationship. And she did what she had to do for herself, which it was the right move, because you know well, of course, well, yeah, because mickey.
Speaker 1:Mick had to step in.
Speaker 3:So during this not year of marriage that they had, you and her were talking frequently. Yes, but it was a friendship basis. But while it was a friendship basis technically in terminology, did you start catching feelings for her and do you feel that she was catching feelings for you Absolutely, and you felt, you guys felt the connection? Did you guys ever talk about it? Like was it brought up.
Speaker 2:We did in a conversation where I guess her wife at the time or towards the end was kind of like making comments. She felt like she knew that her and I were talking more, but it was generally she was venting to me about them. She didn't like that, of course, and she's like well, she thinks you like me.
Speaker 3:And we're like she's not wrong.
Speaker 2:Exactly, she's not wrong. And it was more like, oh okay, and I think for her it was like I'm not alone in this, I'm not feeling, you know. So it's like, but, like I said, we still remain friends. And after that I just talked and talked and that, after their divorce was final, and you know, we started taking it to the next level. To the next level, I'm officially in.
Speaker 1:I'm officially in. I'm out of the friend zone, I'm out.
Speaker 3:She got out of the friend zone, she sure did.
Speaker 2:Wow, she did. I mean my photo, thought was it Like the?
Speaker 3:pinky toe was it. She was like dipped.
Speaker 1:She was like dipping every so often, and then it was just no longer the tip anymore.
Speaker 3:Nope, and it was full on Full on Full on. We're in Full, send baby.
Speaker 1:And this was how long ago long ago.
Speaker 2:Six years ago. Six years ago, six years ago, wow. And she got engaged three years ago. Okay, okay, try to have lanes since then, but this just hasn't worked out yeah, this seemed like a small wedding though it seemed like it was, it was very intimate. It was just our siblings and our parents I was gonna say it didn't seem like you had.
Speaker 2:Her family, for the most part, is all in mexico and my family is the entire valley yeah, so it's like this is true, and every time that we would decide, okay, we were supposed to have a wedding actually in 2023, september 3rd 2023, and every time that we would tally up everything, just the amount just kept getting higher and we're just like yes, and then obviously we're our mindset was like house, baby, yeah, like something you know we have, that's good.
Speaker 3:So now you guys are going to do baby talk we've been you've been in the process for three years you have been. Oh wow, who's gonna carry? She is, she is she's younger, right she's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got myself a baby oh, no, what?
Speaker 1:No? What's it A puma? No, who's a puma?
Speaker 2:You're the cougar, I'm the cougar, she's a puma.
Speaker 3:She's the baby cub.
Speaker 1:Who was? Yeah, no, a puma is in their 30s. Oh, she's in her 30s, yeah, but she's not dating younger, she's dating older. Oh, so you're the cougar. She's the cougar. She's the baby cub? She's the baby cub or the baby wolf? What was it? The baby wolf? Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:The baby wolf. All right, have you guys figured out? Are you going to do like the IVF? Yes, ivf. So I've already go through the IVF process, because she wants to carry her body, your embryo, yes, so you have to go through the process.
Speaker 2:I'm the one that has to get the nightly shots and be full of hormones. How was that? I'm already an emotional person.
Speaker 3:That's not a Gemini characteristic.
Speaker 1:I feel like her rising is cancer.
Speaker 3:I'm going to call it yes, I'm going to call it the 13th of June. Oh, so you're closer to See. My Geminis are all May. All three of them are May Geminis. You're a June Gemini. That's different.
Speaker 1:Okay, that makes sense. That's like borderline cancer.
Speaker 2:Oh, borderline cancer. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, cry babies here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I'm like the little what is the, the little character, the blue character.
Speaker 2:Sadness from inside, out from inside out once I'm going through that process of those shots and you know my non-existing booze or felt like they were like this the whole time.
Speaker 1:Oh no, no, we can't do that, we already have, I have they're just extremely tender, yeah, and for me like it like I can get a cold.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's all my feelings. It's all your feelings? Oh no, but you know what? My wife you like saying that, no, it's cool, right, it's cool to say it when it's like a real thing.
Speaker 1:At some point I will save my wife again at some point in my life, oh really open to oh, oh, I'm totally open to getting married, yeah. I would never. I would never not be open to getting me. Just because I didn't work out doesn't mean I wouldn't, so you're not bitter that it that not not better that it?
Speaker 3:didn't work out. Bitter, not bitter. How could let?
Speaker 1:me, I'm not a big, a bitter divorcee.
Speaker 3:No yeah, like the type that's like I'm never getting married. No.
Speaker 1:I would never be one of those people that are like, oh, it didn't work out, marriage is a fraud, I would never do it again. No, I took it as like a learning experience. Yeah, and I now know what I want to go into my next marriage or relationship with and the tools that I've gathered from that experience. So no, I'm totally. You know what. My wife said, that too oh, I'm never gonna get married. Oh, she said, I'm never going to get married, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like I was like, okay, we'll go with my own, you know, damn it, damn it.
Speaker 3:I guess I'm going to be a girlfriend forever. Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1:But she was. I mean, she's young, she's younger than you, she's young. So she never thought oh that makes sense, I think that's what kind of?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I can't speak for her, but I'm assuming that it's maybe made her feel like this is not for me, you know. Yeah, or this is not what I want at all anytime soon, yeah that's true.
Speaker 3:So you're going through the IVF. You're super tender, yeah. So is your body Mm-hmm, but it's all going to be worth it. Are you excited? I am excited.
Speaker 2:When are you guys going to try?
Speaker 1:to. We've tried.
Speaker 2:Oh, you've tried already.
Speaker 1:We've tried how many eggs did you get, or embryos Did you?
Speaker 2:Right now we have five. Five, that's good.
Speaker 3:Five good, viable embryos that we know of. Yes, what bank did you guys go through? For the spermate. Yeah, oh, uh san diego.
Speaker 2:Well, at first we were using somebody that we oh okay, you okay, and it was free.
Speaker 3:So thank you, yeah, of course of course free baby.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but that we. So we've already tried yeah the turkey base. I guess you can say it didn't work. It just didn't work and, uh, we'll be. When we originally started the process back in 2021, we went to that bougie place in what is it? Pasadena, the HRC.
Speaker 3:Oh, yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And they quickly turned her down. They said, no, you can't have babies Because she had fibroids. Well, has fibroids.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:And he checked me. He's like, oh, you're good. And I was like, but your age? And I'm like, stop.
Speaker 1:He's like you're an old egg, she's a young egg, but her eggs have fibroids, so we're not even going to attempt it.
Speaker 3:That's fucked up.
Speaker 2:That is I feel like if, if it wasn't because we wanted to start the process, she would have never found out that she even had fibroids Right. Which caused her massive menstrual pains and stuff like that so a lot of things made sense to her.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And she started doing acupuncture, which helped with the pain it was manageable.
Speaker 1:Acupuncture is amazing, oh, which is why she wants to now be a doctor, which is exactly why she wants. She's going to med school.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's getting her doctorate.
Speaker 1:This is why she said you gotta get them young.
Speaker 3:Ooh, okay, alright. So we? What kind of doctor?
Speaker 2:Chinese medicine and acupuncture.
Speaker 3:I need that Because my acupuncturist and I don't know If she's ever listening, but she listening. But she left me and went to Boston to finish school.
Speaker 2:I have a great one if you need one, so I need she's in LA. Uh-huh, she is amazing. Yes, shout out to Wani.
Speaker 3:All right, okay, okay, so then-. Well pretty soon it's going to be her wife. Yeah, three more years, three more years, three more years, that's going to. Okay. So the donor? You tried the turkey basting thing didn't work. So then, where did you guys look for the donor? At that, at the bank in San Diego.
Speaker 2:Right, they have one in LA and one in Anaheim and then they have one in San Diego and we finally came. Okay, we found the guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, let's pray for the best you know. Yes, and the clinic that actually removed my embryos after that it's not here in the States, it's in Mexico. Oh, okay, they have an 80% success rate.
Speaker 1:Did you go to Mexico because it was less expensive?
Speaker 2:Yes and no. We looked for percentage rates like successful rates.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That one happens to be one of the most successful ones.
Speaker 1:I know a lot of people go out of the country because it's significantly less expensive than here.
Speaker 3:Well, I want the info because we want to have a baby Her and I spoke about it the other night. I would love it to be my embryo, if possible. Um, I know I have to like start now, obviously yeah, the younger you are, but it's the price that always has kind of like scared us from it. So obviously after the show I'll get you know your info or we'll be in a group chat and then I'll tell you this this place.
Speaker 2:I mean it's right off the border, so it's not like yeah, driving crazy because I'm not one of those that loves to drive in mexico and all the roundabouts and yeah, yeah but this place has by far been amazing and there's people from every country okay, cool, that's awesome that's awesome so I'm like oh, so it's not just american people crossing over, no, it's people worldwide that are so then about this then the sperm gets sent to them, and then they do the Well I take it.
Speaker 1:So I pick it up in San.
Speaker 2:Diego, they give it to me in my little.
Speaker 3:That thing is cool when they have it.
Speaker 2:That's pretty cool I remember taking photos of it. I put it in the seatbelt, are you okay?
Speaker 1:You're good, it's gold. She talks to it as she's. She's like drive all careful, and I'm like I already drive like a grandma, so I'm just driving extra slow, and I'm just like you good.
Speaker 2:Sorry about that, dude.
Speaker 1:And I got it. She's like mama's got you. I avoided that pothole, Don't you worry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so then you take it to Mexico and then that's when they do the whole the embryo Okay, that's actually pretty awesome. And then they take that and inject it into your wife. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:And then you pray that you get pregnant, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I mean they're very thorough. I think that's why we're not pregnant now. They found some issues that they're like we want to make sure.
Speaker 3:Address this first. Yes, let's do that. And how much, if you don't mind us asking, did all of that cost you?
Speaker 2:So far, so far Okay. So the procedure to remove them from me was around $4,000.
Speaker 1:Okay, wow, that is significantly less. Yeah, then we just had my friend, jackie on here talking about their, because her wife now is pregnant with her second baby and this baby is Jackie's embryo and they were all in just to get the eggs out at 22. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:I mean, I thought they were joking when they told me 30,000 and that they didn't even include the medicine.
Speaker 1:And it doesn't include them putting the egg in you Right or her.
Speaker 2:That was their quote and I still have it, so I can look at it and be like F you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm having a baby for less than that Wow.
Speaker 2:So $4,000 for that, $4,000 for that, and then Medicine is like the shots that they give you, yeah, the hormones yeah, they give them to you and, like I think, depending on how many days they need you to do it, yeah, because I don't know if it was because the day that we went that I needed less, in a sense, I think I don't know more than two grand.
Speaker 3:And it was like at least six or seven shots. She was saying that each of the menaces for $300. Or like $300 for the vial For each one, the tiny little vial, okay, and then? So we're at 7,000. Now, right, and then and then every time you inseminate.
Speaker 1:It's what.
Speaker 2:Well, we haven't tried that yet.
Speaker 3:Okay, so your total cost right now is like 7,000.
Speaker 2:I want to say and correct me if I'm wrong one of these days Ari, I feel like we've already paid. It's just the insemination part now, so okay.
Speaker 1:Oh wow. So all in all, you're in it for about maybe 10. You're looking?
Speaker 2:10. Yes, yes. And there's a couple that I follow on TikTok that went to the same location and they pretty much said the same thing. I don't think we went over 10,000. Okay, I need the information.
Speaker 3:I definitely need it because Fernanda and I were going to start doing all that and then, when we get back from the honeymoon, I would love for her to be pregnant and then have a baby soon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's the way to go.
Speaker 2:I think the only thing that was kind of like tough was the commute, you know, yeah, but, and especially because I had to make those commutes, when I had to go get checked to see if I was ready for the retrieval. I had to make those commutes by myself because Ari had to work or has school. And if you can get your global entry Absolutely Best and best.
Speaker 3:If I don't get denied like you, you got denied.
Speaker 1:She got denied my global entry.
Speaker 3:Do you know why she got denied?
Speaker 1:Nobody knows why. Nobody knows.
Speaker 3:I never said why, maybe off camera will tell you why. Maybe another shot for her.
Speaker 2:Give her a shot, exactly. Give her another shot. Share why I got denied.
Speaker 1:Okay, I got denied because when I was young, when I was 17, I did something very stupid. What did you do? I stole a shirt from a store and I got caught. Yep, I got caught For a shirt. I got arrested and the shirt was $75 on the cutoff. It was from Macy's, the cutoff was $50, right, so that they don't call loss prevention, doesn't call the police. They called the police, they handcuffed me, put me in the back of a fucking cop car.
Speaker 2:You're underage, what would that even matter? No, they took me to jail. Yeah Global, what would that even?
Speaker 1:matter. No, they took me to jail.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Global Entry looks at everything, well, not even jail.
Speaker 1:They took me to like the station right, and then they tried to call my parents, but my parents were out of town. They kept calling the house. Nobody was answering, so they sent a cop car there and then they were like, oh well, if nobody answers, we're going to send a vehicle. If no one's home, you're going to juvie. They have me handcuffed to a pole in the in the office and I'm just like I'm not a criminal.
Speaker 3:Did you look? Mean, I'm not a criminal now. Is that? Where is that? Where your obsession? Comes from being handcuffed now I've never been handcuffed.
Speaker 1:I've never been handcuffed, so yeah. So they basically uh, finally got a hold of somebody, because they sent a car and my sister's girlfriend at that time and then my sister came out to pick me up. She like berated me and I that was it Right. So then I went to court, I paid the fine, I did the community service. That was that they're like your record's going to be expunged. Okay, cool, I'm in Atlanta going through. So why were you arrested? And I'm like what? And he's like, why were you arrested in whatever year? And I'm like, oh, my god, well, that was expunged. And he goes. We don't use that term in the, in the whatever the hell they call themselves tsa. He's like that's a cop term. And I'm like, oh sorry, I was like, uh, they told me it was expunged.
Speaker 2:I got arrested for like shoplifting and that was that detained felicia, and then he was like well, he was like, but you were charged and I said I don't.
Speaker 1:I was like it was expunged, it's. All I know is that they told me it was expunged, Well denied. Oh, you just got someone on a bad day. Maybe it was your attitude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know I'm going to go with your attitude.
Speaker 1:I was so nice to him because I get really, really. I'm the kind of person that when I get pulled over, I am so nice.
Speaker 2:Like, I'll even compliment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll even compliment the officer, because that's what always gets me off, and this time the guy was just like not having it.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe, because you kept saying like I don't know If you were like, look my guy, I took a T-shirt. It was $75. It was 15.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, I explained this, I explained to stuff. They don't even let you get that far no, and then he just said um you need to you need to find basically what happened right, the court case, yeah, and basically what happened, and fill out the form or whatever and submit it and I'm like where am I going to get this information? This happened when I was 17 years old, like you have to go to claire, I don't even know where the hell I can go.
Speaker 2:Anything about it?
Speaker 1:no, my sister then said you have to go to the clerk. I don't even know where the hell I can go, so you haven't tried to do anything about it since. No, my sister then said you have to go to the police station, or not the police station, the courthouse of that city. Yeah, see if you can pull your record or pull your information and then maybe try to make an appointment here in LA and go to the LA office. She goes, because they're much nicer here. Mick, I have a question for you. What's up? What's your thoughts on all these lesbians that are now dating men or married to men, or having babies, or having babies with them Because I have friends.
Speaker 1:This is why I'm asking.
Speaker 2:Right, because I have friends that have dated for the most part Well the time that I've known them women and then go to men. At first it's kind of like okay, you're like what?
Speaker 1:You're like is there something you didn't tell me?
Speaker 2:Then you meet their partners and then you see how they are with them and you can see why they fell in love. And you know, I guess the friends that I have are with men. They've always said they were bi. So, it wasn't like a shocker, but you know, it was kind of like you seem happier with a girl, but I'm not taking away from anybody that actually is with the males. They look like they're.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wondered if it was some like a choice of we want to settle down and I want to have a child and so like, let me start dating a guy now. Or if it was like a chosen, like thought process, or if it was something where like, oh, I just met this guy and I totally clicked with him and I fell in love, and that's that. Because I know from the people that I've been with or know they were always very adamant about either being a lesbian, I don't date men, I dated men in the past, but I'm a lesbian now. And then they go on to date men. Or it was, yeah, I'm bi. I'm bi, I'm bi, but I prefer women. And then they end up with a guy, which to me is fine. I don't really care who you end up with, you can date anybody. But yeah, I just think it's interesting that there's like a boom happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah I see it. It's interesting, but it kind of hurts the gay community rep. Right, that's what I'm saying Mind you, I understand. As a friend you want to date a male, go for it. Boo, that's on you, you know. But then it's the people that don't know you that judge, and oh like they go back and forth and they all sleep with each other. No, it's not that you fall in love with whoever you fall in love with.
Speaker 3:They were saying that men, when they're gay and they have their partner, they'll correct me. You know, actually, don't correct me.
Speaker 3:I don't care, I don't care about the fact checkers that men stay gay Like once they're gay, they're gay. Men stay gay Like once they're gay, they're gay. Women just have a higher percentage of like going back to men or going to men in general, and I know a lot of girls that were like gay, like with the manly clothes, like your stud right, like that, you would see it here and all these things. Stud right, like that, you would see it here and all these things. And then when Facebook was a thing for me, I'd go on Facebook. And they're married to a man, pregnant, and then their hair is grown out and they're wearing crop tops and all of a sudden they're femmes and I'm like wait, what, what? And it's like hold on. And these were girls that never said they were bisexual.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so for me it threw me off a little bit.
Speaker 3:It's like me then deciding to be with yeah, I don't know what I would do With Jeremiah, yeah, and if you grew your hair out and you started wearing like a crop top and get like and bring out that leather jacket and bring out my leather jacket.
Speaker 2:I don't know what I would do.
Speaker 3:I don't know what I would do with you. I.
Speaker 1:I don't know what I would do with you. I don't know what I would do with you. I mean, I'd still be your friend, but I think I'd kind of be like thrown off by you. Yeah, I definitely think that if you're a stud or you know a mask whatever the hell your term is that you want to use now, I think that that's a little bit more shocking. Or a gold star, or whatever. I don't think that being a gold star like because we're gold stars it would be more shocking. It's my point. Wait, you're a gold star too.
Speaker 2:I mean, I dated a lot of boys.
Speaker 3:But you didn't ever.
Speaker 2:No, when I tried, oh I tried, oh you did you tried. Well, I was naked and everything. He was my boyfriend.
Speaker 1:Tell us he was my boyfriend. What happened?
Speaker 3:What was your 15, 14, 15. No, it was before making Señora Okay.
Speaker 2:Oh, you were young, yeah, and I wanted to, but I was under the influence.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:He said no, he said no, he said no. He said no. He said no. Not like this, but in Espanol no así. No, I like it.
Speaker 3:I like it Wow what a respectful guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I actually I was still talking to him because I didn't start dating females, or I didn't. I was told I was gay.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? You were told. Tell us your coming out story. What?
Speaker 2:was that. High school junior year junior yeah, junior year captain of the basketball team. And Cynthia, she was a transfer and black girl, beautiful, short hair, blonde hair she was like the amber rose yeah, before amber rose and we clicked and we were always hanging out and talking about basketball and this and she would braid my hair. You know, blah, blah. And she's the one that told me I was talking to boys at that time. She's like you, like girls, huh. And I was like what? No, but did you?
Speaker 1:Well, I didn't know, it was okay, she probably didn't know, but secretly did you. I didn't know it was okay, she probably didn't know, but secretly did you, I didn't.
Speaker 2:Okay, did you get funny feelings?
Speaker 3:I didn't understand what I was feeling. Okay, I get that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah yeah, okay, I get that. And she was like, I was like what? And I was pissed. I didn't talk to her for like two weeks and it showed is going on between you guys, fix it. Yeah, and he's like, because I don't understand what's going on. That was that uh-huh locker room. I was going up and I said why would you say that that I like girls? She was like I mean, she's like, it's not, there's nothing wrong. I like girls, I like boys, she's like. But it I get the feeling that you like girls, how would you know if you like girls? She's like, do you look at them a certain way? Yeah, yeah, she goes. Have you ever envisioned yourself like kissing them or like anything? Have you ever envisioned anything that you would have normally have felt for a boy, like, do you envision that with a girl? And I was like yeah, cynthia Thompson was like you are gay and I was like gay, she goes. Do you like boys?
Speaker 3:And I was like gay.
Speaker 1:Me, that was me Crabs are pearls.
Speaker 2:And she was like or do you like boys too? And I'm like well, yeah, I like boys, you know. She was like then you're bi. Oh, it's a thing, no, it's a thing. It's a thing, no, it's a thing. She's like, it happens Like there's people that like this and people like that. I was like, oh okay, I didn't know that, right, I just didn't know that, right, I had no idea.
Speaker 2:And I remember it took me a while and I thought about it and I was like, no, that makes sense. Why would it feel like that? About so-and-so and this and that. I was like hmm, okay, she's like, have you ever kissed a girl? I remember saying why are you offering.
Speaker 3:She said no, oh, but that was kind of, that was smooth though Dang.
Speaker 1:I felt that level of comfort and I trusted her.
Speaker 2:you know she was willing. Well, she took the time to like explain something. She just called me out, right, yeah, I mean she did originally but and I was like no, and then I don't remember if it was. I want to say her name was Iris and that's the first person I ever kissed and, my God, I'd never look back. Love it, it's all it takes.
Speaker 3:I love. I'd never look back. Love it, it's all it takes. I love this story.
Speaker 2:I did try to kiss a boy again actually.
Speaker 3:And it just wasn't the same. And then you were like ooh, and I was like no, quiero no quiero.
Speaker 1:No más.
Speaker 2:No, and I told my then boyfriend I think I like girls. And what did he say? He says, huh. Okay, we were kind of still yeah you know, he was already mad at me because he was in my chamberland for my quinceanera. I wanted a taller guy. He was my height, so I was like come on, bro, like I need, I need somebody to troll me, I need to feel.
Speaker 1:I need to feel. I need to feel. That's I feel, the same way. I'm like cause guy, I need to feel petite yeah well, no, so you need to be big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know I told him and he was like okay, well, he goes, go figure out what you are or what you like, yeah, and come back and you never went back. She never went back, and I never did, but he's one of my cousin's closest friends so I still kind of see him, him.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I remember this one party. We both went dressed the same Light blue collared shirt with the black slacks that is so fast. It was a quinceanera too, I remember, and we looked at each other. Mind you, I still had hair there, I had the ponytail, oh okay. And he was like huh, girl still. I'm like like, oh yeah, oh yeah, I love it. And he's. He's been with the same girl since the first girl that he ever started dating after me. He's been with her.
Speaker 3:They have four girls but I love that he was so respectful yeah absolutely, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shout out to him shout out to him for sure. Oh, I mean of course, at that time I was pissed.
Speaker 1:How dare you turn me down. How old were you with your when you had your like sexual experience with a girl?
Speaker 2:I want to say I was like 17, 18.
Speaker 3:17, 18? Yeah.
Speaker 2:When we started going to the tea parties, you know back in the day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:How was that?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, how was that?
Speaker 3:Oh man, I mean, it was amazing. Look at her face. Look at her face. I ruled, that's me seen okay, look at her smile.
Speaker 2:I was the new hot candy. When I came out I was like they all wanted a piece of that.
Speaker 3:They were like I haven't had that. I haven't had that one.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of young folks, they call it swinger parties parties now.
Speaker 2:Oh, I haven't had that not that I've been, I have not been to one, I was gonna say I have now.
Speaker 1:I've just watched movies, the one who threw a sex party. That was not a sex party, it was a sex I would love to go to one.
Speaker 2:Will I, will, I partake? I don't know. I I'm still kind of like, so are?
Speaker 1:you guys more um open to like I don't want to say open like an open relationship. No no no, but like to just experiencing different things.
Speaker 2:I think we'll be open just to go and see what it's about. But I mean, would we partake?
Speaker 3:It's like a gateway drug, I'll go to see once you go your hook.
Speaker 2:It's like weed is a gateway drug. Let me see.
Speaker 3:Let me see, let me see which one, let me taste that one, let me see, that looks interesting.
Speaker 2:I get so mad just the thought of her looking at somebody else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I mean, I don't think I can.
Speaker 2:Would I want to go as a chismosa to go see what's going on, oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, and I think she would be too, would you have been interested in it, more so if you were single. The hesitation she's thinking about it.
Speaker 2:No, because I'm open sexually with my wife, with your partners. No, with my wife. Yeah.
Speaker 1:With your partners? No, her wife With my wife, her wife, so you're more open with her than you've been with any other partner. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Oh, so she can do whatever she wants, because sometimes they just take that one partner that like Like for me, miss O?
Speaker 3:Yeah, for me it's Fernanda, right yeah? It's like that one person that you kind of just cracks you open. Yeah, in many ways you feel safe with you, feel comfortable, you feel like, hey, you know, yeah, you feel. I think safe is the right word. Right, like you feel safe, I mean. But you're probably always handcuffed but I was not hank.
Speaker 1:I've never been handcuffed, I'm pretty sure miss all right, we're gonna play true or false.
Speaker 2:all right these. You see that you put him away. She did it, all right.
Speaker 1:We're going to play true or false, all right.
Speaker 2:Let's go.
Speaker 1:These are topics that were brought to our attention by your wife. She sent me some of these. So, I'm going to have to probably come. We'll probably have to come up with some other ones because one of these. You've already answered. Let's do this, all right. You've already answered. Let's do this, all right. True or false. I'm obsessed with vampires.
Speaker 3:We have to say true or false, oh true, I'm going to say true.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. If I can be a vampire right now, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, Like Vampire Diaries and no horror stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm talking about. I need to go see Nosferatu.
Speaker 1:Are you like a secret soft goth?
Speaker 2:No, oh, no, no no. No, no but my mother to entertain me because she loves horror films to entertain me since the age of three. She put on the scariest movie at that time in 1985. What was it?
Speaker 1:Fred Knight. I was going to say, like Freddy Krueger's, I can't watch him. I'm terrified. I love him. No, I have his little claw tattooed on my arm. I can't.
Speaker 3:Alright.
Speaker 1:I'm a gold star.
Speaker 3:True, yeah, you need a jacket. You need like a. We need to make like little Letterman jackets. Yeah, with the gold, they don't have to say anything, they just have a gold star, we should make our merch because we're going to make some merch.
Speaker 2:We should have one with just a little gold star.
Speaker 3:It doesn't need to say anything else. It speaks for itself. It speaks for itself. She's a gold star.
Speaker 1:I want to be in law enforcement. I'm going to say I say false, false.
Speaker 2:I wanted to. I went to school for criminal justice Didn't complete, because I was helping my parents with their store at that time and I never stood up to them to be like I want to go to school. I was like no, it's help your parents at the store. And I took the test. I passed. But that's when my Jameson partner at the time was diagnosed.
Speaker 1:So I didn't know how to balance both, and I just haven't been able to like get back. Yeah, would you consider?
Speaker 2:doing it now. I don't think I can because of my age.
Speaker 3:I think that yeah, you have to be a certain age.
Speaker 2:Oh really good, you know, but I'm like, have you seen the people at the court? Yeah, give me that job right how are you?
Speaker 1:everybody rise, I'm still mad. How are?
Speaker 2:you required to be in tip-top shape to get in, but not maintain it. Yeah, I agree with you there 100%.
Speaker 3:You should definitely have to maintain it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how do you chase?
Speaker 2:anybody. They can't. You don't. You get in the car, you run back to the car and chase, and then that's how you get off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not that I know, I don't know how. That's how Ava runs away from the cops, right?
Speaker 1:She picks the Allegedly the unfit cops to do crimes around.
Speaker 3:I need my lawyer. Go and move your sister. I need my lawyer. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, we kind of know this one. I'm a handy lesbian. I fix everything in my home.
Speaker 2:Obviously false, false, false. There's crooked frames around the house, I'm sure. Damn, my grass is green. Boo, you can't even do that.
Speaker 3:Hey, I have the lever A leveler. Yes, whatever it's called Off your phone, no. No, I actually have one.
Speaker 2:I did at some point have my own little toolbox, a toolkit, I mean half the shit is missing.
Speaker 3:She doesn't know what happened.
Speaker 2:I feel like there's so many things I want to do, yeah, but when it comes to actually doing it, and I'm like, does Ari Remember?
Speaker 1:when I that's the first thing I said when I walked in. I'm like, hey, did she do this? She likes our wall, she's like, but she's been pretty handy, I'm not.
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 1:I can figure things out, but I'm not. I wouldn't consider myself a handy lesbian.
Speaker 2:I'm a handy lesbian in the sense that I like to, I think like one Right, but I'm not.
Speaker 3:You don't execute.
Speaker 1:You don't execute.
Speaker 2:Is your wife handy? Yeah, yeah, she'll be the one that fixes things. She's the one behind me. To the right, to the left. Stop right there, let me do it. Yes, who kills the bugs? Oh, she does. I will not. I will not touch a spider hell.
Speaker 3:No, why is that? Me too. I literally freak out in house yeah, burn it. Yes, throw it away. Throw the house away. We're moving out. I read a book, a month.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say no, I say false.
Speaker 3:She just laughs False, false, false. She probably wants to. She doesn't execute it.
Speaker 2:I was at Target recently and I saw a book and it was about vampires. Oh, it called me, yeah.
Speaker 3:But not enough, but not enough, but not enough. I bought the book. Oh, what is it doing now?
Speaker 2:It's just there. One chapter read. One chapter read, could you?
Speaker 1:do audiobooks yes, okay, see, I'm the same. I can do audiobooks, I can do podcasts, I can do that kind of stuff. But to actually read, open the book and read it, I don't have the attention span to do it, but besides that I'm also dyslexic, so it takes me a long time to read a book. Yeah, like no, it's not gonna happen. Uh, okay, uh, I don't have any tattoos of my ex's names on my body.
Speaker 2:I'm saying I'm saying false, correct?
Speaker 1:no, no, I actually don't you do, I do, she does you have names.
Speaker 3:I had a name, oh god, you got it covered up yes, do you have like matching tattoos?
Speaker 2:with x's. No with no with ari. Oh okay, all right. All right, we have a little avocado that when we hold hands they look like they're high-fiving each other. Oh, that's.
Speaker 3:that's pretty cool. I like that. It's cute. I like that yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, and last one I never U-hauled with a girlfriend, that's false, I'm going to say false, false, false, I mean yeah, false, because we know about the.
Speaker 3:I would love to meet a lesbian that hasn't U-Hauled to you.
Speaker 1:No, I had one girlfriend that moved in If they move in with you, it's still a U-Haul?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's U-Haul.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but she moved in because Justification.
Speaker 3:It was, it was. It doesn't matter that, because she moved in with you?
Speaker 1:No, but it was. But OK, what justifies a U-Haul? That they move in with you, no, but.
Speaker 3:Six months A year.
Speaker 2:I've only lived with three, I would say six months to a year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the jailbird. I've only lived with three as well. Well, one of them was no two. One of them was my wife and the other one was the jailbird.
Speaker 2:Well, ari and I moved in a month or weeks before the pandemic started. Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So, but how long after you guys were together? Well, two years.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that wasn't a U-Haul.
Speaker 1:That wasn't a U-Haul, no, but her other one was a. U-haul. Yeah, I don't remember how long I was with Jailbird. I don't think it was six months. It was definitely under six months, yeah, because months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she got kicked out.
Speaker 1:She had nowhere else to go.
Speaker 2:U-Haul it's still.
Speaker 3:U-Haul, technically U-Haul, I guess I technically U-Hauled.
Speaker 1:Alright, we're going to play another game with you.
Speaker 3:Okay, we're going to do Boo or Snooze. So you're going to tell me Celebrity edition. You're going to tell me if you would boo the celebrity or you would snooze on them. Okay, alright, megan Megan Fox, boo, ariana Grande.
Speaker 2:Boo.
Speaker 3:Scarlett Johansson Boo, boo she's clearly not picky. Selena Gomez.
Speaker 2:Snooze.
Speaker 3:Snooze yeah, I'd snooze too. Snooze too, lady Gaga.
Speaker 2:Snooze Me too.
Speaker 3:Lindsay Lohan.
Speaker 2:Before or after I knew you were going to.
Speaker 3:I knew you were going to. I was waiting for that.
Speaker 2:Because, whoever she's talking, whoever her doctor is now, now, my God, right now, boo boo boo boo boo boo boo, boo boo Jessica. She bothers me so snooze.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she started bothering me too. Oh really.
Speaker 2:I mean she's going to be on the market soon apparently.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's getting divorced.
Speaker 2:We saw that coming. I never saw them together. No, I didn't either. She was reaching, I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she was reaching Kris Jenner.
Speaker 1:Kris Jenner chris jenner, do you like molder?
Speaker 2:I've for the most part of all. This is the first time I'm the um the older one Beyonce Snooze.
Speaker 3:Hailey Bieber Fucking Snooze Pink.
Speaker 2:Just because she looks cool to hang out with.
Speaker 3:Janet Jackson Snooze JLo.
Speaker 2:Snooze.
Speaker 3:Carol G, carol G, carol G Boo and a half.
Speaker 2:Just yeah, carol G, carol G, carol G. Boo and a half, I guess A boo and a half. A bee A boo, a bee, a boo. Why a boo and a half? I don't know, there's something about her that bothers me. But then there's times when she's like, oh, she's pretty.
Speaker 3:Her facial structure, something, something, sometimes her yeah.
Speaker 1:Like is it too masculine Sometimes?
Speaker 3:Sometimes I get what she's saying.
Speaker 2:There's something, there's something that's like and then there's something that's good, kim Kardashian, snooze, snooze, all right, not because I don't think she's pretty. I think she's pretty, she's just. I just don not even that. Oh my God, it's not even that for me. It's more like that doesn't do it for me. I don't really care either, it's not that.
Speaker 3:I don't care. She's like, I don't care how many times they've been ran through, it's other things, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's other things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think for me how to be.
Speaker 2:They claim to be like themselves, but no. The only one that does is was it Chloe, chloe, chloe's the only one that I feel like she's really like chill, like eh, whatever I could see that Like you feel like you're getting the real deal.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, the rest, no yeah. Okay. Well, that was fun.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, I think we're going to wrap being on. Yeah, thank you. Thank you and sharing your stories with us, so we will catch you guys on the next one. Thank you so much again. Later booze, later booze. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the let's Say More podcast. If you can, please show your love and support by writing a review on Apple podcast, rating us on Spotify and, of course, spreading the word and sharing us with your community, we would greatly appreciate it. The let's Say More podcast is produced by yours truly, solange Aurelio and Ava Mozaffari, and edited by myself as well, solange Aurelio.
