Lez Say More Podcast
Welcome to Lez Say More: the podcast where your favorite duo of best friends—together for over 20 years—gets real about the queer community. Join us every Wednesday as we dive into everything from health and wellness, to fashion, relationships, sex - and even the occasional celebrity gossip. With our trademark humor and brutal honesty, we’re here to share stories, laughs, and insights about the (queer) modern life and all the fabulousness it has to offer. Whether you're part of the community or just curious, grab your favorite drink and join the conversation—because we promise to keep it funny, relatable, and absolutely unfiltered!
Lez Say More Podcast
Beyond the closet
What happens when cultural expectations clash with personal identity? Join us as we navigate the emotional highs and lows of coming out in diverse family settings. From the heart-wrenching confrontation in an Islamic household triggered by the discovery of photos, to the struggle for acceptance within a non-religious family led by a feminist mother, we uncover the complexities of reconciling one's true self with the pressures of societal norms. With stories that blend humor and sincerity, we share the awkward family dynamics, the guilt, and the impactful moments that shape our personal journeys toward self-acceptance.
Take a trip down memory lane as we reminisce about the pressures of adhering to traditional roles, like dressing for prom, while exploring how these experiences influenced our understanding of identity. Our episode captures the vibrant and sometimes humorous facets of lesbian culture, reflecting on stereotypes, relationship dynamics, and the evolution of nightlife. We ponder why lesbian bars have dwindled over time. Through personal anecdotes, we highlight the power of unexpected attractions and the joy of shared experiences that bring laughter amidst serious conversations.
As we wrap up, prepare for a lively segment filled with rapid-fire questions about favorite things and personal qualities that offer a glimpse into our lives beyond the coming out narrative. From dream encounters with iconic figures to karaoke song preferences, we reflect on the qualities we admire most in others. This episode is a heartfelt blend of introspection and entertainment, leaving you with gratitude and anticipation for what's next in our exploration of identity, culture, and the stories that shape us.
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You think your mom thought you were pregnant? No, definitely not.
Speaker 2:She's probably hoping that you were pregnant not being gay. No, no, she knew. If you saw me when I was that age, you would know it was not pregnancy.
Speaker 1:Except it was like us kissing and you know Nothing, you can like say, oh, that's not what it looks like. Yeah, I couldn't, and my sister had told me like guess what, mom? No, I couldn't, and my sister had told me like guess what?
Speaker 2:Mom, no, I'm over here minding my business, being my little, you know, cute lesbian self Demure, my very demure lesbian self, cute, sweet demure, cute, sweet, demure self, oh dear. And you know, she came over here, she wanted it.
Speaker 1:She wanted to see what was good with this cute little demure lesbian.
Speaker 2:Hey guys, she wanted it. She wanted to see what was good with this cute little Dior lesbian. Hey guys, welcome back to the podcast.
Speaker 1:I'm Solange. Oh, today you're Solange, I'm Ava. What do you mean? What was I?
Speaker 2:yesterday. Soli See, Soli is a nickname I reserve for those that know me well.
Speaker 1:Now they're all going to call you Soli and family.
Speaker 2:You know I used to hate that nickname growing up. I like it. I mean, now it's kind of stuck. It's a nunch, I just hated having to explain my name.
Speaker 1:Well, now we showed everyone that we have ADD.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anyway, hey guys, welcome back, and today we are going to be talking about our coming out stories and today we are going to be talking about our coming out stories. I'm coming out. I want the world to. Okay, we're not going to sing because I definitely do not have a singing voice. All right, you want to go first? What's your coming out story, boo.
Speaker 1:So my coming out story was in college and it was with my best friend at the time who was on the basketball team with me, right, very typical coming out story. And for me it was a little difficult because I am from an islamic household. So, um, being muslim, that isn't, you know, acceptable. My mom is your very that isn't, you know, acceptable. My mom is your very typical muslim woman who prays five times a day and does ramadan, and she's never had a sip of alcohol. So bringing homosexuality into her home was obviously frowned upon. And she took me to the mosque. So, and I knew how to read arabic, I also knew the prayer.
Speaker 1:So when I had my first encounter with a woman, it messed with me mentally because religiously I knew it was wrong, right, so, um, I battled that, you know, for a while. And and when her and I broke up, I started to date guys again because I thought it's the right thing to do, right, because I didn't want to upset my mom. And then also, my beliefs were that homosexuality was was wrong. Um, I always felt weird around girls, like in high school I like they gave me butterflies, whereas, like guys really didn't, and I didn't understand what that was, and back then it wasn't like I could go to my mom and tell her something like that because I knew it would be wrong, right? Um? So then when I try to date guys again, it I just didn't feel the same. I don't know, women just have. Women just smell nice, not that guys don't. It just wasn't like, it wasn't my thing, like cool water cologne, just wasn't wasn't my thing, wasn't cutting it, the Axe body spray.
Speaker 1:I don't know what that smells like, I just remember cool water being like every guy's thing, so yeah. So then after I just got to know myself and just really kind of figured out that I like women and they like me back too, and that's just. But there was a battle of how am I going to tell my mom? So she found out because I had come back from San Diego and she went through my car and she found pictures of me and my girlfriend. Back then we were always printing pictures out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And she found these pictures and she told my sister about it.
Speaker 2:Are they incriminating photos?
Speaker 1:We were kissing. Oh, there weren't any like nude shots, like I'm not.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It wasn't anything like that, but it was like us kissing and you know Nothing you can like say, oh, that's not what it looks like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't. And my sister had told me like guess what mom knows? And I'm like, knows what? She's, like knows about you and so and so, and I was like crap, and I was so scared I go home, my mom acts like nothing, nothing at all. Um, so I'm like what the hell? Like, why is she not mad at me? She's, she's still asking me if I want dinner and I'm like this isn't like my mom. Well, my mom's pissed. She's pissed. There's no dinner for me, there's no talking to me. She's a Leo. So it's like fuck you. She's like fuck you kind of way.
Speaker 1:But in Farsi I get cussed out in Farsi all day long. So she was fine and I and I was like this is weird. So a week went by and she hadn't said anything to me and I was like fuck it, I have to tell her. So I went into her room and I'm like I know, you know. And she's like know what? What do I know? And I'm like mom, I know, you know, you know, you saw the pictures. And then she's like yeah, I did. And she told me like it's just a phase, just a phase like I'm sure you'll grow out of it. And it did lead me to believe that it was just a phase, which is why I tried to date the guys and I was like, wow, this isn't a phase, what am I gonna do? How do I juggle this with religion?
Speaker 1:And then after that, I don't think I introduced anyone to my mom as my girlfriend. I would. I would date girls, but I wouldn't really bring them home. I think maybe I brought a couple over, but they were just my friend, but my mom they always know, right. So I like I would try to stay away from bringing a girl home.
Speaker 1:And then my mom met Fernanda, which is my wife now, and my mom is absolutely in love with her. Sometimes I think she loves her more than me. Um, she loves her like really does and she loves her Like really does. And I'm so grateful for that Because I've always wanted that. You want that your parents to love your partner, whether you're gay or straight. It's important.
Speaker 1:And my mom still to this day won't call Fernanda my wife or my partner or my girlfriend. She will say your friend, but she was at your wedding, she was at my wedding and she walked you down the aisle, she walked me down, and so she'll call me on the phone and say, oh, how's Fernanda? And she'll say tell your friend. I said hello, and I know it's not malicious, it's just, I think, that my mom is 82 years old. So an 82-year-old muslim woman going to her daughter's lesbian wedding right, that's in itself is a huge step, right. So I can accept her calling fernanda, my friend um I I. They have a very cute relationship too, so fernanda cuts her hair oh yeah, yeah, so it's, it's great, um, but yeah, that's my story.
Speaker 1:It was. It was a good experience. Obviously I'm happy it happened, because I wouldn't be here, yeah, but yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 2:Religion and homosexuality is scary yeah, yeah, I think that's where a lot of people seem to have this um clash yeah with themselves internally, especially if they are very religious people themselves. Um, or they grew up in a really religious household. Uh, I did not grow up in a religious household. What's what's?
Speaker 1:your. How did you come out to?
Speaker 2:uh, I came out at 16 okay I was lucky enough to be the youngest of four girls, and my oldest sister is also a lesbian, so I call us the bookends oh, I like that um so I came out and there's a pretty big age difference between us there's like 19 year age gap between my oldest sister and I so she had to come out, obviously before I did, and her experience wasn't the same, which I find to be quite interesting that we both came out to the same person, even though we both had struggles. Her experience was far worse than mine. My mom was a feminist.
Speaker 2:So she was very open and liberal and you know all these amazing things, and when she left her country of origin, chile, she came here for a better life for her and her children. So I think, with that being said, she already had more of a open mind like this you know kind of mentality. But I think homosexuality was not part of that, right, I don't think that was on our bucket list. Yeah, it was like okay, you can maybe have more than one boyfriend, but I don't know if you're gay, I don't know if it's a woman, I don't know if gay, I don't know, gay cuts it, but yeah.
Speaker 2:So I came out at 16, I was in a really bad car accident and when I I ended up having to go see the doctor multiple times thereafter for checkups and whatnot. And I was in this really bad car accident with my first girlfriend and Becky with the good hair, and it was one of these appointments that I had to go see this doctor and my doctor pretty much had told me you know, hey, listen, I went in before my mom went in and she was like listen, I spoke to your mom, she is really worried, she thinks that there are just these like weird things happening and I'm thinking like, what the hell could she possibly be thinking? Like, what are you talking about? And she's like and I'm thinking like what the hell could she possibly be thinking? Like, what are you talking about? And she's like she thinks there are these weird things happening and, um, well, you know, she, I, I just think you need to tell her. And I was like tell her what.
Speaker 2:And she's like tell her that you're in a relationship with this girl. She thinks that this girl's making you do all these things that are not like character for you. And you know, I just I really think that you should tell her. I think now is a good time. I'm gonna bring her in. And I was like, uh, like I froze, like all my trauma came up and I just sat there and froze, like I was like I can't do that right now, like no, there's absolutely no way I can tell my mom that I'm gay. She barely even got through the threshold of the door and I'm already sobbing. And she came in and she basically forced me to come out. She was like okay, solange has something to tell you.
Speaker 1:And my mom was looking at me, terrified do you think your mom thought you were pregnant?
Speaker 2:no, definitely she's probably hoping, oh yeah pregnant, not being no, no, she knew.
Speaker 2:If you saw me when I was that age, you would know it was not pregnancy we should put up pictures of us yeah, so I I told her, I like sat there and I looked at her and I was like mom, um, I'm gay, did Did she cry? She started crying because I think, I think because I was crying, oh okay. So I started crying because I just felt guilty, like I felt this sense of shame and guilt and I knew I was gay at a very young age. Like I knew that I was different, I knew that there was something different about me, since I was very young, like I can probably remember the first time I felt something towards a girl, I was in, like first grade so you knew you were going to be a gold star from yeah yeah, like I found myself having crushes on boys.
Speaker 2:But now, looking back as I've gotten older, I realized that they weren't crushes they boys. But now, looking back as I've gotten older, I realize that they weren't crushes. They were more like admiration. Like I admired these boys and these boys were able to like do the things that I wanted to do and they were able to like have the girls have crushes on them and I wanted that Right. Like I wanted Susie in the corner to like me.
Speaker 1:So now you have Susie and Jennifer in the corner, my corner's full.
Speaker 2:No, I'm kidding Girl, the bench is not full, oh so there's still room on the bench.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, At that time my bench was not full. Oh, so I was like I don't know how old are you in first grade Six, six, yeah, I was like six. So I just remember like thinking all right, there's something different about me and I don't know what it is. And my oldest sister I knew like she was different too, because she lived with her girlfriend and she always brought these women over and I would go spend the night at her house and she and her friend slept in the same room in the same bed and she would tell you the story better than I will, because she remembers it a lot. You know a lot more clearly because she was older. But she'll tell you like I guess I would question her, like I'd be like why are you two sleeping together?
Speaker 1:I could see that you would still do that to this day, you two sleeping together.
Speaker 2:I could see you know you would still do that to this day. Yeah, probably so. Yeah. So I ended up, uh, having a little bit of a support system, in the sense that my sister, when I told her that I came out to mom and all this, and my mom's reaction was kind of like, kind of like your mom, like just this panic, but also then trying to give you relief by saying, oh, it's okay, sweetie, it's just a phase. Yeah, and I knew deep down it was not just a phase Like you thought, okay, yeah, maybe it's phase. I was like this is not a phase. There's no way this is a phase Like this is who I am, this is the way I was born. There is like nothing about me that wants to date a boy. And I tried. I tried. Thereafter I went to prom with a boy. I dressed up like super girly, I wore a prom dress.
Speaker 1:We need to find those pictures. Producer. It was terrible.
Speaker 2:It was terrible. I look like a drag queen. I don't I doubt that.
Speaker 1:Oh, it was bad. It was bad, it was really bad. We need those pictures. Yeah, I think so. I don't. Nobody needs to see that.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, but you probably look good in prom. I do. Let's just say that I walked into prom and everybody who knew me in high school could not believe it was me Like they were just like oh my, and I wore. I've never worn a shoe with a heel in my life.
Speaker 1:I wore open-toed heels did you get a pedicure?
Speaker 2:I did. I got a pedicure, I wore a toe ring what was the point of the toe ring? Because my mom had given me this stupid little toe ring and our friend had said it looked like a watermelon seed. Because she went to prom with us and, um, watermelon, I'm trying to like what is that? A watermelon seed on your toe? I'm trying to envision this. It was like a little jewel, I don't know, it was like. I want to say it was like a little flower, like jewel thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1:It was very out of character what did your date think about your outfit?
Speaker 2:my date was okay, you're gonna love this story. My date was actually this guy that I went to high school with, and he and I dated the same girl, who happened to be a girl that you dated as well it's so interesting your track record of dating the same girl as other people, but you're not the problem, buddy, oh, but who dated them first?
Speaker 1:All right Me. There's a song for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I dated her first. I dated her first. Actually I was her first. I dated her first in this situation, like with this boy too, oh okay. And then he dated her, and then we became friends and because we had a math class together, oh, now I know who the girl is.
Speaker 1:I was trying to figure out who it was. Okay, I know now.
Speaker 2:And he, I guess, I don't know. I guess he thought maybe he was going to go to prom with her I have no idea, or maybe he was thinking it was a thruple.
Speaker 1:No See, you have that too. You have these thruples that you like no, no, no no she. She was a year older. You stink. That doesn't change the fact that you were going to get into a throuple. No, this was not a throuple.
Speaker 2:He probably thought it was a throuple no, he definitely knew this was not a throuple. We were not on speaking terms. I don't know. No, no, no, no, so she, I mean, he asked me get it right. Actually I might have asked him. I don't remember. I think I made him ask me, you made him ask, I wrote him a letter and I was like are you gonna ask me, or what, what's?
Speaker 1:so interesting is.
Speaker 2:I don't see that in your character well, I kind of had, no, I kind of had to make this happen for my mom, okay so then I so like for me it was like okay.
Speaker 2:so I had really short hair up until like 10th grade. Then I started to grow it out because I knew that I wanted to go to prom with a boy, have my hair, wear a dress, do the whole thing for her. And I did. I did it for her and if you see the picture book that I made for her, like on the last page I wrote like it's not Halloween, it's just solely in a dress.
Speaker 1:You need to, we need to share these pictures. It was bad. It was bad but yeah.
Speaker 2:So I ended up um doing that for her and I tried, I tried to date boys and it just it wasn't, it wasn't my thing, like I was, like I can't do this. I'm, I am gay and this is what it is, and my sister basically said it okay, like my sister's, also a gold star.
Speaker 1:So we're both gold stars, you actually get like a jacket, you know, like in golf. In golf, when they win the masters, they get the green, the green jacket, the green coat.
Speaker 2:I don't know you never, I'm not that kind of well, they get like a sporty one, they get a green coat.
Speaker 1:I don't think a lot of lesbians are sporty ones. And then, um, you and your sister should get one, and it would like have like a gold star.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought you were gonna say the um, the other ones, the, the.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, the varsity jacket, letterman, letterman, jackets, yeah I mean, we could go that route as well and you two should pick a date out of every year. You guys go out and wear these jackets yeah to west hollywood wherever you guys want to. Silver lake, I heard, is now like the silver yeah. Ground for lesbians. Hollywood is not what it used to be.
Speaker 2:You listen, we had the best generation in west hollywood it was like the last of the mohicans in West Hollywood it was like the last of the Mohicans, Like there was no other lesbian bars out there now.
Speaker 1:No because my theory is all the lesbians wanted to have kids and make a home. That's my theory.
Speaker 2:You know what I think it is? I think it's that they lesbians will attach themselves to one, like two women will attach themselves to one another. They'll go make a home right and they'll be together forever and they don't go out like they go out in their small cliques of friends and their small groups and they'll go to dinner or they'll go to, like, a friend's house for dinner or they'll go, maybe to a lounge or a bar to have a drink. But you don't go to a club like gay boys go to clubs, because men continue relationships.
Speaker 1:They continue to party, yeah, and they mature later on and they don't have the biological clock. Lesbians, women, majority of them all at some point want to have kids. The majority of them all at some point want to have kids. The majority of them, not all women, and that's why I think a lot of the scene has changed, because they are becoming homemakers, whereas, like, men don't have that clock, like we do not. All women, right, I'm not because, like you, may not ever want to have children, and you know, or I, I want kids, more kids, um, but I think that's what happens the older you get, as a woman, you just can't, you just rather just stay home, whereas a guy, no, he wants to go out, whether you're straight or gay, he wants to go out, he wants to continue to party, he wants to see the go-go dancers, whether they're male or female or whatever tickles their, I mean.
Speaker 2:I do think that there are women, though, that are like that as well, who want to go out, whether they're in a relationship or not, and want to have a place to go to to have a good time, to have some drinks, to listen to music, to watch some go-go dancers, to do all that right, and we used to have that option. Yeah, okay, so you probably start to age out of clubs, probably in your late 20s, early 30s, at least that's. You probably start to age out of clubs, probably in your late 20s, early 30s um, at least, that's when I started to age out of the club and I was like, okay, this is just not my scene just aged, but I aged out at like 21 you did, I just was not.
Speaker 2:I'm an old soul. I was never really into clubs and partying and drinking and all that. But I do think that the minute I got into a long-term relationship, you know, I just we. I think it's a lesbian thing. I think that we just decide to be home with our partners rather than going out to a club.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying because it's a it's a woman thing, right? So then you put two women together, then it's less. I do wish that there were things that we could go to now, and I think that Silver Lake, from what I heard, has some things. We should probably go check it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely heard. Silver Lake is where it's at now, with some lesbian nights. Weho was the shit.
Speaker 1:Weho was the shit Like for anyone that lived in that era of going out to West Hollywood Wednesday night. Thursday there was always something there and there were gay bars for men and then there were lesbian nights and it was fantastic. It was so much fun for other age groups too.
Speaker 2:There was like East West, which was like the older lesbians, where we would be now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we would be there now. The sophisticated ones. I remember the ones with money. Yes, yes, where we would be now. Yeah, we would be there now. The sophisticated ones, I remember sophisticated the ones with money.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, not as young starving, I know oh my god.
Speaker 1:And what was crazy is that we would go out during the week and then in the morning I remember having to go to work. Oh, that was brutal and it was brutal. But now you can't catch me doing any of that. No, definitely not. But you know, what advice would you have for lesbians or women or men that are coming out later on in life?
Speaker 2:My advice to anyone coming out later in life I guess stick to who you are and what you like and if you want to come out and be out to only a close group of friends at first, I think that's fine. If you want to come out and announce it to the world, I think that's fine. But I do think that it's much easier to come out now at this day and age than it was back then for us, but also for older generations. Like I know, my sister's coming out story was a lot rougher and it was a lot rougher back then. I remember I would get bullied and I would have a lot of people talk shit to me coming out because when I came out as a younger person because it was not as talked about, not as open and also I looked the way I looked, you know like I am much more feminine now as a older lesbian. I don't know what I would call myself, but I wouldn't say older, but you know, a more mature, a more mature lesbian. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mature version of yourself, mature version of myself.
Speaker 2:I do think I've gotten better with age. I think I agree. So I do think that you know it's much easier now. But that's just. But who's to say what's easy for someone or not right? It could be very difficult for this person because of the community they're in, the culture that they're in, the you know friend group that they're in. Like, I abandoned my friends when I came out because I assumed they would not be okay with me. I created that crater between us and I regret that because then later they came to me and they were like we would have accepted you, we loved you. And also like they were like we would have accepted you, we loved you. And also like did you see yourself? Like you know, it was kind of a given, we didn't think you were going to bring a boy around.
Speaker 1:And I was like, oh yeah, okay, well, I just thought it was me. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. Just be true to yourself and just know that even if it's hard for you to come out because of the community or the friend group that you may have, you you'll always know who your real friends are. It's easier said than done, because it is. It can get lonely and loneliness is horrible thing to experience. Um, I remember experiencing that, not because of being gay, but I just remember I got bullied in middle school, um, and it did feel lonely. You know and I'm not saying, I'm not telling people these things because I don't understand their struggle Everyone struggles their own way, maybe their home life, you know. Maybe their parents might kick them out and and they might struggle with their parents not speaking to them.
Speaker 1:It's not easy. We just think it's a lot easier now than it was before. But, yeah, there and there's a lot more like literature online that they could access, that that can give them the tools to help them cope with that and help them navigate those sorts of conversations with their friends and family. But I do think women are a lot more curious, and it's the whole. Curiosity kills the cat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we have the cat, I don't know. I had a conversation with a friend and you know um. I made a comment and I said you're, he just doesn't know the power of a lesbian.
Speaker 1:Who doesn't know the power?
Speaker 2:Her partner.
Speaker 1:Her partner doesn't know Her partner.
Speaker 2:It was a conversation we were having I don't want to say too much, but it was a conversation we were having and her partner was like well, I don't see this person having a crush on that person. Blah, blah, blah, blah blah. And I looked at her and I said, well, he doesn't know the power of a lesbian. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, because you get the right girl. Yes, she can she, she can, you know, persuade she. Lesbians will tell you they were pursued. They did not do the pursuing.
Speaker 1:I've always been pursued and I, when I've been pursued, I've never even known that the person had a crush on me, cause I'm just like, oh, they're not going to like me, I'm not their type, I'm this, I'm that like all the time.
Speaker 2:Or you assume that because they're straight, they're not going to be into you, right? So you just kind of discard it and you're like I'm not even going to attempt that she's straight, whatever. Blah, blah, blah. And I think a lot of people assume and I would call this a stereotype that oh, she's a lesbian, she's going to turn you. Oh, she's a lesbian, she's going to come after you. You better watch out. Maybe even in the gay boy world this might be a thing, but I definitely feel like no, it's the other way around. I'm over here minding my business, being my little, you know, cute lesbian self demure, my very demure lesbian self demure self. And you know, she, she came over here, she wanted she, she wanted it she wanted to see what was good with this cute little demure lesbian.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I've seen it. I've seen it happen, I've experienced it. It's a real thing, you know, and it happens. So no, you're absolutely right. They underestimate the power of a lesbian, especially a cutesy demure one, especially a demure one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, so we're kind of rounding down on time. So I think what we're going to do is we had a little bit of too much fun doing our rapid fire questions last time that our producer cut us short on and we want to finish them off because we had a really, uh, a really. You know we worked hard on these questions yeah, thank you, google, thank you no, thank you solely's brain. Well mine, yours were helped by google.
Speaker 2:Yes, I had a lot going on this week all right, so I'll finish mine and then you can finish yours. Sure, all right, okay, so I we're just, I'm just going to run through them. We don't have to do a timer, alright the producer didn't like that.
Speaker 1:You vetoed the timer alright.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't. I think you'd get all these in under a minute. Alright, let's go. Do you have a special talent? Because you didn't answer that question last time.
Speaker 1:Alright, what is it? No, that wasn't. It's not an addendum to the question, it is. I can shoot the ball very well, because you didn't answer that question last time. All right, what is it? No, that wasn't the.
Speaker 2:It's not an addendum to the question it is.
Speaker 1:It's right under. There's a point I can shoot. I can shoot the ball very well.
Speaker 2:I'm sure there are other things you can shoot very well. Your favorite curse word we got Okay night owl or morning bird.
Speaker 1:Night.
Speaker 2:Your favorite pair of sneakers.
Speaker 1:Jordan 11, columbia's.
Speaker 2:For those that don't know, ava is a sneaker head. She owns an old school one, though she owns so many sneakers that they're not even all in her own house no, my mom's house, and her wife doesn't approve of that no, she cried when we were moving in together, because she was like where's all your shit gonna go?
Speaker 1:uh that's actually a very true story, if you ever ask her.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know she told me, okay, you can meet anyone, dead or alive. Who would it be?
Speaker 1:Michael Jordan, oh. No, kobe Bryant, oh.
Speaker 2:Kobe Bryant. Sorry, I'm not a Kobe fan, but I knew you were. You win the lotto. What's the first thing you buy? I'm not a Kobe fan, but I know you are. You win the lotto.
Speaker 1:What's the first thing? You buy Land for my wife.
Speaker 2:Aww.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's got like that one. Yeah, that is a dream. Yes, your dream car Ooh, a Ferrari Red.
Speaker 2:I could see that, yes, pizza or burger. Burger.
Speaker 1:You're on a deserted island and you can only bring three things A microphone, my wife and, I have to say, my kid. Well, you can say your family, in group of only one, so my family. A microphone so we could continue recording while I'm on the island. And a life straw so I can have water. But, no food, I'll hunt it oh okay, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:Those are good.
Speaker 1:I like those All right here, drink, all right. Do you think you would make a good spy? A hundred and one million percent, I know. Night or morning, morning Do you? Would you rather have physical strength or mental strength?
Speaker 2:Mental.
Speaker 1:What's your go-to karaoke song?
Speaker 2:I don't do karaoke.
Speaker 1:No, if you had, if there was a gun to your head, like the producer was looking at you crazy and said sing this song. What's the song you're singing, biggie? What song from Biggie?
Speaker 2:Big Papa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it when you call me Big Papa. Yeah, that one. Do you use public restrooms? Yes, but I hate to. Oh, cringe Me too. What is your most strongly held belief?
Speaker 2:Oh God, you got deep um.
Speaker 1:Family is everything what is your favorite holiday? Christmas what's the worst present you ever received.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I've gotten some really bad ones, but I can't remember them.
Speaker 1:Probably underwear, really, yeah, what would?
Speaker 2:you. Okay, I mean I've gotten bad ones, I just can't think of them like on the spot.
Speaker 1:I'm sure I'll think of something later. What's your biggest flaw? My biggest flaw, my god? Just one. Yeah, I can be a little stubborn. What is what secret about the universe would you want to learn?
Speaker 2:life after death and what's?
Speaker 1:what are three things you admire about me?
Speaker 2:oh, I know that one's not on there um admire yeah, or that you love about me.
Speaker 2:Okay, just three. Um, I would definitely say your loyalty, like you're a ride or die. I would would say your sense of humor, because you're funny as fuck, which is why we're doing this together. And I will say, in general, your heart, like you are such a good, loving, just wonderful human being and you just always have the best of intentions with people. You're always, like, so worried about what people will, you know, think of you in the sense that, like you want to represent yourself and your family and like the best of ways, and I think that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1:You almost made me shed a tear. I had to think it through and talk myself out of crying, because I am an ugly crier but I'm a cancer, so we're very sensitive.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:So thank you, boo.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, I think that's. That's enough for this podcast. We are gonna leave it here and we'll catch you guys on the next one episode three. Episode three, which I think might be about sex, I don't know, we'll see. We'll see what happens? Let's talk about sex, baby, let's talk about you. Know, you and me? No, not together this no, never, never, never um, all right, all right, we'll leave it later booze.